I'll first address Marnie directly, then make a few general comments WRT this thread.

So, Marnie,

Don't leave us. In fact, you're not allowed to leave. Not because I say so, but because the PDML gods say so. You're spiritually a member, regardless of whether you have any P****x equipment or not. Seriously, I truly enjoy and appreciate your contributions to the list, and it would be ashamed to lose a valuable member.

General comments:

I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, but I don't think that anyone said that we should get rid of OT, or GFM, or Digitalk, or whatever. I think what may have been suggested, is that if list traffic is too high, that these sorts of things are just as "list clogging" as anything else, so why pick on PAW specifically. Yes, our wonderfully tangential OT discussions are what "makes" this list. It's how we ~really~ get to know each other, and it's in large part how we've become such a close knit community. BUT, if list traffic is high, these rather longish OT threads a a large part of it. It's ironic that so many have suggested restrictions on PAW, which is peripherally related to the "raison d'etre" of the list, while mostly leaving OT ramblings alone.

Should PAW be Pentax only?

Why? I have lots and lots of Pentax photos. I have lots and lots of non-Pentax photos. If I choose to post one photo a week, it's going to jam the list just as much no matter what type of camera it was taken with. Restricting the equipment will have no impact on traffic, only on what I choose. I totally respect the fact that PUG has such restrictions. Those are the rules. PUG is largely for "outsiders" to see what we do with our Pentax equipment. But PAW is informal. It's (I think) about us as photographers, not just as Pentax photographers. It's not just about me posting photos, it's about me critiqueing photos.

Now (and I feel very strongly about this), since this is an unmoderated list, we can post as many photos as we want. There is no consensus necessary as to what I can post. That being said, out of respect for the list, I'm more than happy to limit my PAW posting to one a week. I think if everyone else does that, PAW traffic will calm down a bit, as some have been posting much more than one a week so far - to be expected due to the success of this venture. If anything "special" comes up (like the Ice Race yesterday - more photos to come later <g>) I may post something extra, but that would be unusual.

As for the suggestion that PAWs only be posted on Friday, well, firstly, see above re: unmoderated list. But, I think that if they're limited to Friday, there'll be a huge bulge in traffic that day. Wouldn't it be better to let it dribble in during the week, to spread it out? It would be much less obtrusive then, I think.

As I've said to others off-list, I think that the PAW volume will calm down a bit over time. Firstly, we won't have the big bulge we had over the weekend, immediately after the suggestion was made, it will be spread out. Secondly, I think it likely that as the novelty wears off, we won't see everyone posting every week.

I think if we give this time, all the kinks will work out.

I like PAW, and I hope we can keep it going. Thanks for your indulgence for this longish (for me) post.

cheers,
frank



"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer




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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:44:05 EST


Well, if you limit it to Pentax equipment, I cannot participate. And maybe I
should drop off the list completely since I no longer have any Pentax
equipment and will probably not be getting some. Or getting some any time soon.


But I do think PAWs ought to be limited to one photograph a week per person,
since it's called "Photograph of the Week."


Whatever Doug decides, I guess.

Personally I like the PAWs a great deal. And I think the overwhelming
response indicates others do as well. It's a nice counter balance to all the
technical talk.


Threads like OT English cars I can live without, ergo, I delete them.

Marnie aka Doe :-)


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