> From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Well, I found that on the ST 20/4,5 and the three examples of the K20/4.0 that
> I had (still have one) the sharpness at the edges diminishes substantially, to
> the point of a soft blur in some cases.  I've made a lot of pics with those
> lenses, and when the size gets up there, that soft blur becomes quite
> noticeable.  Unacceptable!  Could I have had a total of FIVE poor examples?
> Doubtful ...

Statistically, you could have had atypically bad samples (since the 
population must be in the thousands), especially of a lens that would be 
particularly sensitive to errors in manufacture, but I'd agree that it 
seems unlikely.  

I agree that the edges of the 20/4.5 SMC-T are bad, worse than any other 
20mm I've tested.  I would have expected the K20/4.0 to be better simply
because I can't see much point in redesigning something so similar to the
Takumar design if it wasn't better.

Anybody know if the M20/4 is any better?  Honestly, if the edges of the K
lens are bad I fear the edges of the M are going to be worse.

> Since I could get a fair sum for those lenses, I took the money and ran.  The
> K18/3.5 seems to be quite a bit better in that regard.

Talk about a lens that is hard to find... 

Given what the more common 18/3.5 nikkors are going for, I don't think I'm 
in the market for an 18/3.5 Pentax.  It's also going to be bigger than a 
20mm if the nikkor is any guide, which makes it a less attractive choice
for a light travel kit.

> From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, about poor sales of K/M 20/4.0

> A. They were not quite up to the quality of the more normal focal lengths. No 
> super-wide-angle was before computer design became the norm.

Kinda forgot about computer-assisted design.  It explains the poor 
performance of SMC-T 24 and 20 in terms of corner performance.
 
> B. They were damn expensive (around $500, IIRC)compaired to their other lenses 
> (even the 35/2.0 and 85/2.0 were only around $300, I had them but could not 
> afford the 20mm). Remember we are talking 70's and 80's dollars here maybe 3-5x 
> todays in real money.

And Pentax people didn't buy them?  There seem to be a lot of 20/3.5 and 
even a couple of the coveted 20/4 AIS nikkors on the market. 

> C. Super-wide-angles were considered very specialized lenses, back then. 28's 
> were about the longest most folks thought of using, even 24mm's were considered 
> rathere specialized lenses.

How then could Pentax justify Tak 20/4.5, K20/4, M20/4, K18/3.5, and 
SMC-T/K 15/3.5, all within a relatively short period of time?
Nikon in more or less the same period of time had a 20/3.5 (big), 20/4.0,
20/3.5 (small), plus 18/4.0 and 18/3.5.  Something was pushing the 
companies to put out a good ultrawide (although with the possible 
exception of the K18/3.5 none of the aforementioned lenses are really 
good from what I can tell).

DJE

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