Hi!

g> 1. Price, redesigning the lens to be more economically manufactured with
g> automated machinery.

Tom, I fail to see how optical formula can be of importance here. I
can see that going from M to A and introduction of electronics in the
mount had caused change of lens internals. But not optics, I think.

g> 2. Size, as with the M lenses, the whole thing could be made more compact. BTW,
g> AFAIK no M lens is the same formula as any K lens. The ones that were just
g> continued to be K lenses. The 24/2.8 comes readily to mind, there never was an M
g> version they just continued to sell the K as it was fairly compact to begin with.

Without entering the debate on quality of M lenses... But, indeed
change of size would cause change of optical formula... But since M
lenses, it only grew bigger (zooms)...

g> 3. Optical improvements. As cheap computer ray tracing, and CAM became available
g> it was possible to improve old designs, many very substantially. I don't know
g> how many of you remember how lenses were designed before computers, but
g> basically the drew them up on paper, did a ray trace with protractors, rulers,
g> and pencil. If they aberations were too high they redesigned it and went through
g> the process again. Then again, and again taking maybe a week each time until
g> they got something that was acceptable on paper. Then they made a prototype. If
g> it was bad, they started over. If it was good they went with it as all this was
g> very expensive.

Well, I cannot remember what was life before computers. Mostly, I
wasn't there to collect my memories <g>... But I fail to see how much
optical improvement could be achieved, say in going from F to FA
lenses.

g> Now with computer ray tracing they design the lens using a specialized CAD
g> program. The computer does a ray trace in minutes, I guess nowadays, and if it
g> is not good they change the glass specifications, or a curve and run it again.
g> As you can see they can now redesign a lens a 100 times in the time it took for
g> them to do it once in the old days. In fact it is fairly easy to design
g> photographic optics these days. In the hand tracing days zooms, for instance,
g> were insanely expensive. Basically the M series were the first that were
g> computer designed. And they were designed using Main Frame computers the only
g> thing with enough power back then. Now you can do it on your Mac or PC.

I actually would like to play with such a program. But I realize it
would stay at would-like plane of existence <g>...

g> In fact it is fairly easy to design photographic optics these days.

Tom - please define "fairly". Still we get lousy zooms and even not so
cheap ones are often not too good.

I humbly think that investing in improving the production process
quality and thereby reducing sample to sample variation can do as much
good as optical re-design...

I truly wish I could be a programmer of any of the teams that work on
the cameras micro-code, no matter film or digital... This is truly
fascinating...

Boris
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