On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > From: Chris Brogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > Things change with the arrival of the D70
> >
> > How so?  The D70 isn't that much cheaper than the *istD, and it's an
> > inferior camera in many ways.  It's another plastic DSLR with a lousy
> > viewfinder (only .75x magnification instead of Pentax's .95x), and no PC
> > socket, .tiff mode, or MLU.  It's a good camera for someone looking for a
> > better plastic camera than the Digital Rebel, but it's still not built to
> > the same calibre as the *istD.
>
> From what I hear the price difference is $300 or more, which is significant.

We're selling the D70 with lens for $1849 CAN, and the *istD with lens for
$2099 CAN.  That's around $200 US, which is a pretty small price to pay to
move up to a DSLR in the 10D/D100's build quality class.

> In some ways the D70 is a superior camera (shutter, meter) and it is
> part of what is in some ways a superior system (Nikon).  Nikon and Canon
> also offer better-built options to the D70/300D level of camera,
> although the *istD may be better built than those as well.

The merits of the system don't really enter into the question except from
a marketing standpoint.  The vast majority of people looking for an
entry-level DSLR aren't going to spend half as much as their camera cost
on AF-S or VR lenses, which effectively eliminates the advantages of a
particular system.  If anything, the *istD's 11 focusing points (several
of which are cross-sensors, I believe) should perform better than the
D70's five.

> > > > In any case, the *istD won't appeal to people wanting USM/AF-S, IS/VR and
> > > > the ultimate in AF performance.  But for the 99% of photographers who
> > > > don't need those features on a regular basis, it will do just fine, and
> > > > will even save them some space and money at the same time.
>
> OTOH some of us don't need MLU or .tiff mode or makes-it-heavier grips
> (which the D70 doesn't have) and are willing to pay whatever absurd fee
> nikon charges for the PC-socket-in-hotshoe thingie.  It is a question of
> what feature set you want or need.

Agreed.  If you want great AF performance and you're willing to spend the
necessary money on lenses that can provide this, then buy a Nikon or Canon
and you'll love it.  But unless you shell out big bucks for AF-S/USM/VR/IS
lenses, you're unlikely to notice any difference in AF performance.

> Hopefully for Pentax users the D70 will hasten the appearance of a $1000
> Pentax DSLR with a reasonable feature set, or simply make the *istD
> cheaper.

The *istD is already cheaper than the 10D and D100, so I'm not sure how
much more it needs to drop before people will appreciate it.  Not everyone
is looking for a camera that tries to maximize every specification and
squeeze out every drop of performance possible.  Those of use who don't
use our cameras for professional work that demands ultra high-tech AF
performance may prefer the smaller size, lighter weight, Hyper modes, etc.
that the *istD offers over its competitors.

chris

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