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On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 12:33, Arjo Sinon wrote:
> Op 7-apr-04 om 12:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het 
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> > pentax-discuss-d Digest                             Volume 04 : Issue 779
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >   Re: PAW - Man in Bakery               [ Boris Liberman 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: PAW - Reflections on Golden Pond  [ Boris Liberman 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   RE: PAW - Man in Bakery               [ "Jens Bladt" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   TESTING MY LX METER                   [ "John Daniele" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: PAW: tiger                        [ David Mann 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   OT: Book - Ansel Adams in Color       [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: PAW: tiger                        [ "Boris Liberman" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: I'm back...with new pics          [ Boros Attila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > ]
> >   Re: I'm back...with new pics          [ Shel Belinkoff 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re[2]: I'm back...with new pics       [ Boros Attila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > ]
> >   RE: Re[2]: I'm back...with new pics   [ "Antti-Pekka Virjonen" 
> > <antti-pekka ]
> >   Re: I'm back...with new pics          [ John Forbes 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Sigma 20 mm. f1.8 EX DG AF        [ Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: I'm back...with new pics          [ Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: I'm back...with new pics          [ Paul Stenquist 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 06:52:46 +0200
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: PAW - Man in Bakery
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > SB> BTW, this took place just before Passover a couple of years ago, 
> > and we
> > SB> enjoyed some nice pastry and rich, dark coffee.  Mmmm ... this pic 
> > brings
> > SB> up some pleasant memories of those hours ;-))  Good food, good 
> > coffee,
> > SB> good conversation, a nice walk through the tree-lined streets of 
> > an old
> > SB> berkeley neighborhood afterwards.
> >
> > Happy Passover, Shel, and all the rest to whom this applies and who
> > celebrates this holiday.
> >
> > Shel, I can almost totally relate to that. Been to Berkeley myself
> > once in good old 2001. There was this excellent tea and coffee shop
> > where we bought some quality tea, leaves of course, and later had a
> > good cup of tea with our friends.
> >
> > As I said, happy holidays <g>.
> >
> > Boris
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 06:56:23 +0200
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: PAW - Reflections on Golden Pond - Week of April 5
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Ken, this is beautiful. You know, if I could I would print it real
> > big, hang it above my computer at work and use it for moments of
> > relaxation. It should be very relaxing to one's tired eyes...
> >
> > There is a little round bright patch that almost begs to be removed
> > and replaced by something brown-yellow background-like.
> >
> > Truly excellent!
> >
> > Boris
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 07:41:50 +0200
> > From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: PAW - Man in Bakery
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > Very good photograph. It tels a story and it's "life confirming". I 
> > like it.
> > All the best
> > Jens
> >
> >
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
> >
> >
> > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > Fra: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sendt: 5. april 2004 16:31
> > Til: PDML
> > Emne: PAW - Man in Bakery
> >
> >
> > I posted this to the Leica forum the other day ...
> >
> > http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/57643.html?1081108064
> >
> > shel
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 01:56:49 -0400
> > From: "John Daniele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: TESTING MY LX METER
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > Hi all. I was testing my meter on a recently CLA'd LX and came up with
> > an odd shot I wanted to share.
> >
> > I was at the Boston museum of science by the window and set my camera
> > down on a rail and while holding it still shot this on AUTO with a M50
> > f1.4
> >
> > However my hand moved so with the shutter open I covered the lens and
> > paned right and pointed at an interesting sculpture I found the results
> > to be interesting for two reasons, one the wonderful ability of the LX
> > and two I developed this in tetnal in my backhouse.
> >
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2267463
> >
> > The second shot here is when my hand did not move. The position of the
> > rail and the fact it was not flat made for lousy framing but my goal
> > here was to just see
> > the capability of the camera in auto mode.
> >
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2267460
> >
> > Just thought I would share ho much I LOVE MY LX
> >
> > Regards JD
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 17:58:26 +1200
> > From: David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: PAW: tiger
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > On Apr 7, 2004, at 05:32, Boris Liberman wrote:
> >
> >> Dan, as for the tiger. I must say, honestly and respectfully, that
> >> blown out highlights make no good to this image. I am not as worried
> >> by the eyes as Shel seems to be, but highlights distract me.
> >
> > As far as I'm concerned any photo of a cat is art.  Any photo of a
> > tiger is fine art.
> >
> > <g>
> >
> > - Dave
> >
> > http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 02:06:42 EDT
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: OT:  Book - Ansel Adams in Color
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
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> >
> > Back, oh, I don't know, six to eight months ago or longer, when we were
> > having a list "discussion" about B&W v.s. color, someone, Herb I 
> > think, mentioned
> > that Ansel Adams also did color. Which was news to me. And that he 
> > thought his
> > color shots equaled and actually rivaled his B&W shots.
> >
> > Well, just got "Ansel Adams in Color," used from Amazon. And I would 
> > have to
> > agree. Beautiful. So I am just mentioning it, if you can get a hold of 
> > the
> > book, or run across it sometime, it is well worth a look.
> >
> > Marnie aka Doe   I am proud of me. Just upgraded, successfully, XP 
> > over Me
> > (not a clean install). Bit of a b____ to do, but it works now.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:15:01 +0400
> > From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: PAW: tiger
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > Hi!
> >
> >> As far as I'm concerned any photo of a cat is art.  Any photo of a
> >> tiger is fine art.
> >>
> >> <g>
> >
> > Dave, what about cheetah and lion then? <bg>
> >
> > Boris
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:53:39 +0300
> > From: Boros Attila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: I'm back...with new pics
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > Hello Paul,
> >
> > Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 3:34:17 AM, you wrote:
> >
> > PS> Hi folks,
> > PS> I'm back from my work trip to LA. Since I was off list for more 
> > than
> > PS> two weeks, I think I ought to show three PAWs.
> > Wellcome back Paul, it sounds you had a nice trip. So these photos are
> > some sort of presentation of LA?
> >
> > PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2266882&size=lg
> > Very nice shot, makes me want to go out hiking:) Unfortunately the
> > weather is very rainy here.
> >
> > PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2249276&size=lg
> > Beautiful girl, but the cropped head is a bit distracting.
> >
> > PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2266884&size=lg
> > This is simply amazing. I don't understand why you used manual focus
> > and how could you get the water that sharp. For me that part is that
> > makes this photo, it feels like the surfer is 'cutting' the water.
> >
> > Attila
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 00:48:24 -0700
> > From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: I'm back...with new pics
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> >
> > <LOL>  I don't think her head is at all relevant to the
> > photo.  Gives a new meaning to getting one's draws into a
> > knot <ROTFLMAO>
> >
> > Boros Attila wrote:
> >
> >> PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2249276&size=lg
> >> Beautiful girl, but the cropped head is a bit distracting.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 11:12:46 +0300
> > From: Boros Attila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re[2]: I'm back...with new pics
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> >
> > Hello Shel,
> >
> > It is obviously not her head is the point of interest, but I think it
> > can't be just ignored. Her hair also looks nice. I like the photo but
> > I think a full length shot would be even better.
> >
> > Attila
> >
> > Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 10:48:24 AM, you wrote:
> >
> > SB> <LOL>  I don't think her head is at all relevant to the
> > SB> photo.  Gives a new meaning to getting one's draws into a
> > SB> knot <ROTFLMAO>
> >
> > SB> Boros Attila wrote:
> >
> >>> PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2249276&size=lg
> >>> Beautiful girl, but the cropped head is a bit distracting.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 11:32:59 +0300
> > From: "Antti-Pekka Virjonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: Re[2]: I'm back...with new pics
> > Message-ID: 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > Nice bag... and the girl ain't bad either :-)
> >
> > Antti-Pekka
> >
> > ---
> > Antti-Pekka Virjonen
> > Computec Oy, Turku Finland
> > Gsm: +358-500-789 753
> >
> > www.computec.fi * www.estera.fi
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Boros Attila [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:13 AM
> >> To: Shel Belinkoff
> >> Subject: Re[2]: I'm back...with new pics
> >>
> >> Hello Shel,
> >>
> >> It is obviously not her head is the point of interest, but I think
> >> it
> >> can't be just ignored. Her hair also looks nice. I like the photo
> >> but
> >> I think a full length shot would be even better.
> >>
> >> Attila
> >>
> >> Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 10:48:24 AM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> SB> <LOL>  I don't think her head is at all relevant to the
> >> SB> photo.  Gives a new meaning to getting one's draws into a
> >> SB> knot <ROTFLMAO>
> >>
> >> SB> Boros Attila wrote:
> >>
> >>>> PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2249276&size=lg
> >>>> Beautiful girl, but the cropped head is a bit distracting.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:47:20 +0100
> > From: John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: I'm back...with new pics
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > I really like the composition of the canyon shot, and the fact that you
> > have chosen a time of day when the light has been just right to show
> > detail in the shadows without overwhelming the highlights.
> >
> > The beach shot appeals for primarily non-photographic reasons, and I 
> > never
> > noticed the cut-off head!
> >
> > The texture, if that is the right word, of the water is fantastic in 
> > the
> > third shot.  On my laptop monitor the picture slightly lacks punch.  
> > The
> > black isn't quite black enough.  I'll have to try it on a CRT.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:34:17 -0400, Paul Stenquist
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >> I'm back from my work trip to LA. Since I was off list for more than 
> >> two
> >> weeks, I think I ought to show three PAWs. I shot a lot of frames,
> >> somewhere around 700. i like these three. They're very California. It
> >> wasn't the most work intensive production I've ever been on, so I had 
> >> my
> >> share of fun. Two canyon hikes, numerous trips to the beach, and lots 
> >> of
> >> walks around town in Santa Monica. My old pal "Santa Monica Jesus" was
> >> on his street corner, but I didn't run across him when I had my 
> >> camera.
> >> Would have liked to update my shots of him. Next time.
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2266882&size=lg
> >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2249276&size=lg
> >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2266884&size=lg
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:16:01 +0100
> > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Sigma 20 mm. f1.8 EX DG AF
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > On 6/4/04, JOE discumbobulated:
> >
> >> Does anyone have this? If so, what are your impressions?
> >
> > I have the 24mm f1.8 EX DG AF macro - I use it on a D60 as a street 
> > lens
> > sometimes - the macro facility is very good. I haven't used this on a
> > film body so don't know what it's like at the edge of the frame. It 
> > crops
> > in to about 38mm on the D60. The build quality is not up to Pentax
> > standards, nor Canon's for that matter. I find the focus ring, with its
> > clutch-type push/pull affair flimsy, and I'm not a big fan of Smegma
> > lenses. I have the 70-200 2.8 which is much better, but still not my
> > cupofteaearlgreyhot. The latter will soon be up for sale as I enter the
> > heart-stopping realm of Canon L glass.....
> >
> >>
> >> I need wide primes that are fast because I use them indoors. I am 
> >> afraid
> >> that the DA 14 f2.8 won't cut it. The widest prime I've got is the FA 
> >> 24
> >> f2.0, but its aov on the *ist D isn't wide enough.
> >>
> >> I thought about the Mir 20 mm. f2.5, but it is so thick at the rear 
> >> that
> >> it may not fit under the *ist D's prism.
> >
> > I'm sure the Sigma will be fine, glass-wise - AFAIK it gets good write-
> > ups. I would, however, heavily advise that you handle this lens before
> > buying. If you like what you feel, then go for it!
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Cotty
> >
> >
> > ___/\__
> > ||   (O)   |     People, Places, Pastiche
> > ||=====|    www.macads.co.uk/snaps
> > _____________________________
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:26:01 +0100
> > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: I'm back...with new pics
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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> >
> > On 6/4/04, MY KINDA GUY discumbobulated:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >> I'm back from my work trip to LA. Since I was off list for more than
> >> two weeks, I think I ought to show three PAWs. I shot a lot of frames,
> >> somewhere around 700. i like these three. They're very California. It
> >> wasn't the most work intensive production I've ever been on, so I had
> >> my share of fun. Two canyon hikes, numerous trips to the beach, and
> >> lots of walks around town in Santa Monica. My old pal "Santa Monica
> >> Jesus" was on his street corner, but I didn't run across him when I 
> >> had
> >> my camera. Would have liked to update my shots of him. Next time.
> >> Paul
> >
> > Looks like you had a great time Paul.
> >
> > Canyon and surfer are excellent - like the surfer a lot.
> >
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2249276&size=lg
> >
> > Forget 'Street', I'm shooting 'Beach' from now on.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Cotty
> >
> >
> > ___/\__
> > ||   (O)   |     People, Places, Pastiche
> > ||=====|    www.macads.co.uk/snaps
> > _____________________________
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 06:22:46 -0400
> > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: I'm back...with new pics
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > On Apr 7, 2004, at 2:53 AM, Boros Attila wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2266884&size=lg
> >> This is simply amazing. I don't understand why you used manual focus
> >> and how could you get the water that sharp. For me that part is that
> >> makes this photo, it feels like the surfer is 'cutting' the water.
> >>
> >> Attila
> >>
> >>
> > Thanks Attila. I used manual focus because my lens is an a 400/5.6. I
> > don't own a really long autofocus lens. But I've shot lots of
> > motorsports with long manual focus lenses. I don't consider MF to be a
> > disadvantage, and in many cases, it can be an advantage. The human hand
> > an eye are probably faster than most autofocus mechanisms.
> >
> > --------------------------------
> > End of pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 Issue #779
> > *********************************************
> >
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