While Doug Brewer would have to agree, why not "pug.pdml.net", and a simple redirect from pdml.net? Advantages: 1. No extra cost. 2. Clearly connected to the list.

Also there are far cheaper alternatives than 250 euros. Check out http://detailhosting.com that is where my website is. They are in Canada and only $5.95 US a month ($72) for 250mb (a bit higher for more space and bandwidth). They have MySQL and Postgress databases included in the price. I am sure there are others in the same price range.

Might consider a token submission charge via paypal as an alternative to donations. The problem with donations are they may wind up coming out of the pugmeister's pocket. Donations would probably be better than advertising however. Another possibility is seeing if Pentax or one of its importers would be willing to provide a small annual grant. Maybe even to the extent that the pugmeisters get a bit for their efforts. After all they do benefit if indirectly from the existence of the PUG.

Thanks to you both for all your efforts over the past couple of years.

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Adelheid v. K. wrote:
Hi list,

it seems that the komkon server will not come back. I didn't hear from Igor
for quite a time now and I think we have to think about a new home for the
PUG.

Jostein and I are already in the process of defining a "new PUG".
Before we go any further in this process which includes reserving a domain
and buying webspace I have some questions to the list:

1: Does anybody else want to take over the resposibility for the PUG. It
means: does anyone else wants to be the new PUGmeister?
I am now PUGmeister for over two years. The former PUGmeisters changed after
18 monts so it might be that somebody else desperatly wants to take over.
;-) Volontiers should apply to Jostein and me directly please.

2: The new domain name: I checked "pdml-pug.net" that's still free.
"pug.net" isn't.
If you want another name, please check whether it is still free before you
tell the list.

3: If Jostein and I are going to handle PUG in the future we insist on a
"proper" provider. We don't want to have the hassle with changing the domain
to another provider every other day. So the webspace will not come cheap. We
think about 250 Euro per year. That's the upper end, there might be a
cheaper one saw one today but have to investigate..., but we need a
considerable amout of space that's the expensive part. And we want a
provider with regular backups etc. - a professional setup. 4: Jostein and I discussed a databased setup, where autopug and PUG are hold
together. How this will be accomplished is not very clear yet. I will setup
a prototype and start testing in the near future if I stay PUGmeister. If
somebody else will help with this task, please write Jostein and me offlist.


I think these are enough questions to start the ball rolling.

Cheers
Jostein and Adelheid



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