>From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>an option for me, by preference, and if Pentax doesn't have a creditable
>high end DSLR announced by then, it's time to switch.

Just out of curiousity, what's not credible about the *istD?  I know a lot
of pros using Nikon D100s or Canon 10Ds, both of which are very similar 
featurewise.  The feature that I find the *istD lacking most for my style
of pro work is a "motor drive", and aside from the LX, MX, and PZ-1P 
Pentax has never catered to serious motor drive users.

(the rest of my "makes me uneasy about using *istD for pro work" list:
 -build quality compared to top-of-the-line
 -inconvenient metering functionality with older lenses
 -inferior readouts and options in firmware compared to Nikon and Canon
 -lack of USM lenses )

----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Cliff Nietvelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 11:09 PM
>Subject: Re: Pentax plans to focus on digital

> Another reason: the lenses that Pentax offer do not
> appeal to me: no AF 500mm, 400mm f2.8/4 and no AF
> teleconverters or IS or USM. I can live without USM or
> IS but to have no AF teleconverters is inexcusible.
> How hard can they be to design?

Without USM or some other internal-focus-motor, very hard
due to the linkages required.  Nikon never did it--their
AF converters are USM-lenses only.   My experience has been
that with big glass like that you REALLY want USM anyway.
Nikon finally got the clue there, as did Minolta. 

> However, when shopping for a big lens, I found it
> cheaper and more are available from Canon or Nikon.
> For example, KEH has had many 300mm f2.8's by both
> Nikon/Canon for around $2000 (non IS and some AF-I).
> I've seen very few AF 300mm 2.8's from Pentax, and any
> manual focus one's cost about $2000 used anyhow.

This is true even new.  The Pentax big glass is more expensive,
because they don't sell many of them.  I was pricing this stuff
at B&H and KEH last week for kicks.  It seems odd to pay KEH $500 
for a 300/4 M* because the A* and F*'s are unavailible and the FA
is more than $700 new.  It's doubly odd given the availibility of
300/4 AF Nikkors for $350 and 300/4.5 MF Nikkors for less.

I think a lot of the good Pentax glass is being hoarded, and it is
driving up the price.  I was a little surprised not to be able to find
a K28/3.5, the Nikon and Canon versions of which are plentiful and cheap
(and probably worse...)

> is true for 500mm's. Any 600mm's I have seen for sale
> by Pentax are the A*-600mm f5.6: too slow & no AF.

The 500/4.5 Pentax seems availible (except in screw-mount!) and cheap.
I can see that for some uses you HAVE to have f/4 or better, but
that 600/4 is mighty big, heavy, and expensive no matter what brand
you are using.   I'd think that a lot of folks could get by with a
600/5.6 or 400/5.6 which are much smaller and cheaper.  If you can live
with the optical quality loss, I'd think a 1.4x converter would get you
more or less to these specs as well.
Pentax hasn't really competed for the "guys who buy $6000 lenses" market 
in a long time.

DJE

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