On 4 Jun 2004 at 12:05, Lasse Karlsson wrote:

> It's a good shot.
> There is something to the far away line of trees and the sky. I would have
> preferred a greater sense of "deepness", in lack of other words. In my
> uncalibrated monitor it now bordes to being slightly washed out. (I said
> "borders to".) (I have obviously no idea what the original looks like, why I
> wouldn't know what can be done to it.)

Hi Lasse et.al,

Firstly thanks for commenting. Yes the image is slightly washed out, this is 
due in part to the atmosphere, low angle of the sun and the flare generated by 
shooting into the sun. I was pretty pleased with what I ended up with 
considering these impositions, the 31mm LTD is an amazing lens. The image 
needed to be somewhat under exposed in order to keep any detail in the sky and 
so the image had to be fairly heavily manipulated to bring it back to a 
reasonable gamma.

On 4 Jun 2004 at 10:42, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Keith Whaley wrote:
> 
> > Pretty impressive, shot into the sun!
> > I don't know that I'd have tried it! Or, I'd have expected a big halo,
> > wiping everything out.
> > Pretty good job, it seems to me!
> 
> I am impressed for the same reason. Pentax manual discourage users to
> aim against the sun; perhaps I read too much into that and now I know
> I am wrong. My monitor hoovers, but I find the field a bit dark. Would
> it have worked to give it a bit more exposure (when taking it) or does
> shooting against the sun requires one to be a bit defensive with the
> diaphragm?

I've been shooting into the sun for years with Pentax glass and cameras, I only 
found out it couldn't be done when I used a Canon :-)

You may have missed the technical details but the shot was made at ISO200 f8 
1/800th, pretty underexposed, any more exposure and the sun would have consumed 
most of the image :-)

On 4 Jun 2004 at 6:55, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> I find it quite interesting and quite beautiful. The lens seemed to 
> have handled the severe flare situation quite well. Lassie mentioned 
> the somewhat unusual look of the rear tree line. On my calibrated 
> monitor they appear to be very low contrast in comparison to the 
> foreground. I assume that is a result of flare. You might try selecting 
> the rear tree line with a large feathering area and pumping up the 
> contrast a wee bit. But I do like it the way it is and too much 
> dabbling might spoil it. Nice work.

Thanks Paul, I don't know if the image would take much more manipulation, you 
should have seen the tree line before I contrast enhanced the image. It's one 
of those images that I wish I'd had more time to shoot, unfortunately I was at 
the edge of the highway and risked getting flattened as it was.

On 4 Jun 2004 at 4:05, Hans Imglueck wrote:

> Hi Rob,
> 
> just my humble opinion:
> 
> The sun looks like a Supernova or the flash of an atomic bomb.
> It fits not to the rather calm foreground. I would prefer
> keeping the sun out perhaps by some steps to the right. Though
> good to know how far an image can be tweaked.

Hi Hans,

The sun is a difficult compositional element, well no so much by it's self but 
definitely if you want any other elements to be visible too :-)

The image actually looks quite like I remember the scene, I did have the option 
of shooting the sun out of the frame but I would have lost the reflections in 
the water jets, every situation is a compromise I guess. Thanks for the 
comments.

Cheers all,


Rob Studdert
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