Consider yourself absolved of all responsibility for my sorry butt!

Don

> -----Original Message-----
> From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 10:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OT:Model Release
>
>
> I had better add here that I am not an attorney. I am not
> responsible if you get
> sued. I am only reporting my own practices. Whew....!
>
> graywolf wrote:
> > A model release is a legal contract. A minor can not be held to a
> > contract, so if the person is under 18 you need a parent or gardians
> > signature too. Note the too, I almost never see that mentioned,
> but once
> > the party is 18, their parents signature is no longer binding
> upon them.
> > Get both signatures. It is the smart thing to do.
> >
> > It is very hard sometimes to locate people after the fact, so
> it is best
> > to try and get the release right then and there. If the parents are
> > nowhere near get contact information then contact them with a copies of
> > the photos in hand.
> >
> > BTW, giving them one of the prints is legally a "valuable"
> consideration
> > just like money which covers your ass nicely. "Good" consideration is
> > their pride in seeing the photo published which is not as strong a
> > defense if it comes down to that. However, 99.9% of the time just
> > because they signed something for you will prevent them from trying to
> > sue, so consideration is not as important as many legal texts make it
> > out to be.
> >
> > Years ago I tried using the ASMP long form release. Almost no one would
> > sign such an intimidating document. Nowadays I would use the ASMP form
> > for nudes, paid models, and the like but now use a very simple release
> > printed on 3x5 cards for everything else. Here is the text of
> what I use
> > (the comment about lawful purpose is in there to reasure them that I am
> > not going to explote them in some nasty way):
> >
> > -------------------------------
> >
> > PHOTO RELEASE
> >
> > I ___________________________________ hereby give Tom
> Rittenhouse and/or
> > his assignees permission to use photographs of me and/or my property
> > taken by him for any lawful purpose.
> >
> > SIGNATURE: _______________________________  DATE:_______________
> > (Parent or guardian must also sign if under 18 years of age.)
> >
> > ADDRESS:________________________________________________________
> >
> > PHONE:  ______________________ E-MAIL:__________________________
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------
> >
> > Don Sanderson wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Couple of last dumb questions:
> >> I like to shoot children, with/without their pets involved.
> >> I assume the releases would have to come from the parent/pet owner.
> >> Also what does one do in the case of "Drive By" candids?
> >> Do you stop and try to find the person to get a release?
> >> I always keep a camera ready on the car seat, sometimes it
> would be very
> >> difficult to stop and do that.
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 7:35 AM
> >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Subject: Re: OT:Model Release
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There are a lot of legal points involved, but it usually comes
> >>> down to money. If
> >>> they do not smell money most folks will not bother with legal
> >>> proceedings. Now a
> >>> while a magazine is percived as a fount of money, a personal
> >>> webpage is not.
> >>> Furthermore, if you are only announcing the photo here on the
> >>> list you are in
> >>> effect just showing it to friends.
> >>>
> >>> So, if there is no money involved, nor defamation of character, I
> >>> would not
> >>> worry about it. If on the otherhand I was selling the images, to
> >>> others than who
> >>> appear in them, I would damn well make sure I had releases.
> >>>
> >>> graywolf
> >>> http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> --
> graywolf
> http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
>
>

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