Hey El Gringo,

You might be interested in this Politics discussion list that I'm on. We
discuss this sort of thing all the time there.
http://lists.lists.mx2pro.com/mailman/listinfo/politics

Take care,
Amita

> -----Original Message-----
> From: El Gringo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: apologetic
> 
> 
> Hi Colin,
> 
> The Pope thinks George Bush is the anti-christ.
> 
> http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0MKY/is_9_27/ai_108881880
> 
> There goes your left wing conspiracy.  Honestly Colin, the 
> left doesn't want to take away your religion, those of the 
> left who have children, just want to be able to send them to 
> receive an education without having their minds filled with 
> turn of the millennium fanciful BS about gods and angels 
> flying through the sky on chariots of fire.
> 
> -el gringo
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: apologetic
> 
> 
> From: John Forbes
> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:21:18 -0700
> >
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> >Perhaps, Colin, if Christians weren't trying to impose their 
> >standards 
> >on
> others, or "seeking to persuade", often by very >crude 
> methods (Christianity is advertised like soap powder in 
> >America), people would be less likely to "make light" of 
> some >of their more bizarre hang-ups.
> >
> >And as for not demeaning people like Moslems, a few months ago >you 
> >posted
> a signature which was so pregnant with zenophobia >that it 
> took my breath away. And that of many others.
> >
> >You reap what you sow.
> >
> >John
> >
> 
> Fascinating.
> 
> My statements about the Left were hardly xenophobic, assuming 
> the term even applies here.  It was Christianity that 
> provided the West with the open dialog that we enjoy here, 
> but which is diappearing.  Some time reading John Calvin for 
> a more enlightened view of the human condition is recommended.
> 
> The imposition of standards comes from whoever is in 
> authority.  That's a basic feature of the world we live in. 
> Hitler's Holocost, Stalin's Purge, and Mao's Cultural 
> Revolution all killed
> (murdered?) about 60 million.  Sifting these numbers further 
> we find that there were more Christian's martyred during the 
> 20th C. than during the previous 19 centuries combined.  The 
> Marxist paradigm we live in is a dangerous place.
> 
> In the West the Left is currently telling us to give up what 
> we hold to, even within the 4 walls of our meeting 
> facilities.  Specifically, in Sweden a pastor was recently 
> sentenced to 30 days in jail for simiply reading Bible 
> passages which dealt with a Christian view of homosexuality.
> 
> So much for the lie of tolerance.
> 
> Collin
> 
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