The list has become insane. The evidence is there for all to read. We've suffered a series of horrific off-topic flame wars. Apparently, this latest religious, political, philosophical flame war was initiated by my referencing a few rather tame nudes that I had posted on one of my own web pages. I referenced them in the hope that there might be some discussion regarding their photographic merit or lack of the same. I think there were two or three posts that actually said anything at all about the photos. Several hundred subsequent posts have hurled insults back and forth in regard to the moral and ethical beliefs of various list members. Some of the list veterans blame it all on the newcomers, yet the old-timers continue to fan the flames, bragging about how they've kill filed one member or another. That, of course, incites another venemous response. This is sick. I want no part of it. I think there are some photography sites on the internet where rational discussions of photographic topics can take place. I'm going to see if I can find one.
paul Stenquist


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