Hello John,

My take on the color/saturation is between what you and Rob did.
Since this was shot with a fisheye, I would have moved just enough so
that the center cross was relatively straight rather than having the
bend that you can see in it.  I do like it a bit off center like you
have there, so you might have had to move a bit more to one side to be
able to straighten it.  I really like how the fisheye emphasizes the
curve of the hill.  It is quite an effective use of this lens.

Overall I like it.  I would go back and see how lighting might
effect it.  I'm thinking that more front lighting to really bring out
the white crosses might be very nice.

Thanks for sharing.

Bruce


Monday, July 26, 2004, 10:31:14 PM, you wrote:

JP> Rob,

JP> I read your excellent posts and comments and appreciate the feedback.  Yes,
JP> I added red, but then took it back down.  You are right, and now that I look
JP> at it I think that the actual ground color is probably somewhere between
JP> where my original is and your corrected one is.  I also played with bringing
JP> out the red only on the one cross, but in the end decided to leave it as it
JP> was.  And I kneeled and stood, used the 15mm fisheye and the Pentax 16-45,
JP> shot vertical and horizontal, and finally decided to show this one, even
JP> though I have other perspectives.

JP> Oh, you don't like my 388K image, eh?  (Now the GRIN.)  I saw the size limit
JP> for the PUG but this one is posted up on one of my own web sites, so I let
JP> it go.  Sometimes I put even larger images up there, but I will keep them
JP> off here if that is what you prefer.  

JP> Thanks again for your very good comments and suggestions.  I saw the hill
JP> and couldn't resist taking a photo.  Not anything I plan to do much with
JP> though.  Just a fun shot.  You know how that goes.

JP> That's actually Wal-Mart's US flag in their parking lot showing in the left
JP> lower side of the image.  

JP> -----Original Message-----
JP> From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
JP> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 10:11 PM
JP> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JP> Subject: Re: PAW - Hill

JP> On 26 Jul 2004 at 21:27, John Power wrote:

>> I guess there is some symbolism of some sort here.� What do you think of
JP> the
>> blank spot between the two crosses?� Maybe I should have stuck another
JP> cross
>> there, don�t know.� Not too good with symbolism.
>> 
>> It was across the street from a Wal-Mart.� Maybe it represents all the
JP> local
>> businesses that closed when Wal-Mart came to town.  :)
>> 
>> http://www.solutns.com/jpeg/crosses.jpg

JP> Hi John,

JP> That's really interesting (from a non-religious perspective of course). From
JP> a  
JP> composition perspective what I guess I would have done had I shot the same
JP> scene would have been to step back a fraction and try to get a little
JP> elevation 
JP> so that the crosses in the distance were more prevalent in the frame. Of
JP> course 
JP> I've no idea how difficult it would have been to do this but there's always
JP> a 
JP> way :-)

JP> Technically the image is tending to blue, I expect that you were likely
JP> shooting under a cloudy sky? Without warming this makes the image a little
JP> less 
JP> intense, the reds are no where near as saturated as they could be and the
JP> whites of the crosses are just begging to be white again.

JP> Also (you will hear more from others about this) but the image when
JP> compressed 
JP> well should only be between about 75-100kb for those pixels dimensions.

JP> I hope you don't mind but I've turned this into a WOW as I've taken the
JP> liberty 
JP> to re-work your image (colour and saturation wise) to give you an idea of
JP> what 
JP> I mean (and yes I've gone a little overboard), the crosses could be
JP> brightened 
JP> a bit too.

JP> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/crosses.jpg

JP> Cheers,


JP> Rob Studdert
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