--- Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hi Frank
> thanks for explaining your feelings and how "it"
> happened.
> Maybe the dark clothes of the two men makes the
> picture feel a bit
> "unhappier" too :-)
> You sure have a big talent to see and feel for those
> "rare moments" or
> "loving moments",
> that's the most important point for me.
> Maybe a wider lens would help for sharper snapshots
> (or faster film), a 28mm
> instead of? Did you use a 50m or 35mm lens?
> *I* would not mind the grain of ISO 400 for this
> kind of photography. Better
> a grainy photo than a unsharp one, what do you
> think?
> 
> happy pentaxing (leicasing)
> Markus

Hi, Markus,

It was a 40mm lens, wide open at f2.0.  A wider lens
may have helped with the dof thing, but then I'd have
been so far away for that shot - by the time I got
close enough, they'd have seen or heard me and known I
was there.  I like 40mm for street shooting - it's a
nice compromise on the wider end of "normal".

It was 400 ISO film.  Faster film certainly would have
helped, but I find 400 is a nice compromise when I
don't know what sort of conditions I'm going to run
into.  For indoor available light shots, I can usually
shoot wide open at 1/30th or so.  When I get outdoors,
even in bright sunlight, I'm shooting f16 (for nice
wide dof so I can zone focus for the first frame or
two) at maybe 1/250 or 1/500.  

I don't mind grain at all, for what I do.  Even
unsharp is often okay.  As I keep saying, there's
"good blur" and "bad blur" - the difference has
nothing to do with intention, but everything to do
with result.

For the shot we're talking about, I'd have loved using
1600ISO film - the extra two stops would have helped
immensely, but as soon as I walked out of the coffee
shop, it would have been too bright.

I really don't think I have a talent for those "rare
moments", I think it's more that I always have my
camera with me, usually preset for exposure and
(hopefully) focus.  Like Peter Sellers in the movie
Being There, you just have to be "there" at the right
time.

I'm flattered by your comment, though.

thanks,
frank

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is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer

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