Hi Bob and everyone, Some how "I think it is utterly shameful and a disgrace" and "Cheers, Bob", don't seem to go together too well.....Except on this list.
I have been amazed at the variety of opinion and viewpoint that this list encompasses. Even though it only consists of e-mails there are some people here I've taken a very strong liking to, and some I feel a dislike for! I wonder what it'd be like to compare "e-mail personalities" to the real person? Some of you have had that opportunity, I have not. I would guess that many of the people here would not be at all what I expected, if I use their e-mails as an indicator of their true personalities. I have recieved several responses to my posts that could be taken as very nasty, if *I* chose to take them that way. With the exception of one person who is rude by choice (who I now pretty much ignore), I have chosen to let other comments roll off my back. I prefer to think of them as simply mis-understandings or "communication gaps" due to culture, age or personal opinion. You all know what they say about opinions,....I have one of *those* too. Personally I get the feeling that Shel and Frank might get singled out because they ARE respected and liked, not the other way around. Frank: How can people NOT poke fun at someone who allows himself to be seen in pink bunny ears? ;-) PLEASE don't leave the list because a "few of many" show disrespect. If that was my criteria for leaving somewhere there would be no where left on this planet for me. I like SOME of your photos, others I don't much care for, that's just *my opinion*, doesn't really count for sh*t. I do try to have the good grace not to "condemn" anyone for their work, but I will comment or "criticize", ...if they *ask* for comments and criticism. I do very much agree with Bobs statement: "But there's absolutely no need to personalise your dislike......". This list is one example of how many VERY different people can get along. For me that means swallowing some things I don't like, or agree with, but in the long run it seems well worth it. My apologies for all the wind. "Don the Verbose" > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 3:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: I think I Need a Break > > > Hi, > > [...] > > > Fine. Not everyone is into one of the types of > > photography that that I enjoy. I appreciate that. > > The funny thing is, though, that I can still > > appreciate those other types of photography that maybe > > I'm not so good at. In fact, maybe I appreciate them > > more, because I can't do them. I don't go around > > trashing people because they take photos that I can't. > > I think it is utterly shameful and a disgrace that somebody chose to > personalise things by picking on Frank and Shel's photographs. Frank > and Shel have been major factors in stimulating a very broad range of > different discussions on this list over the last few years. > > There are other people on the list who also receive unstinting praise, > and never a word of criticism, for work in a different style than Frank > and Shel's. These other people's work is stuff that I personally think is > pedestrian at best, and boring at worst. But since it is not > really my type > of photography there is nothing at all for anyone to gain by me > saying anything > about it. > > This does not mean that there is some kind of peer group pressure not > to criticise that stuff, it's just that people may choose not to. If > somebody receives endless praise for their photos of furtwangling, but > I think they're indistinguishable from the rather dismal amateur section > of 'Furtwangler Monthly', and anyway all pictures of furtwangling are the > same, this doesn't mean I'm too peer-pressured or scared to speak > out against > the pretentiousness of furtwangler photos, it just means I can't be > bothered, or I realise that other people find furtwangling a subject of > infinite fascination, so I let them be. > > If you don't like photojournalism, fine. > If you don't like 'street photography', fine. > If you don't like pictures of birds on twigs with catchlights, fine. > If you don't like pictures of motor racing, fine. > If you don't like pictures of caterpillars, fine. > If you don't like pictures of Mono Lake, fine. > If you don't like pictures of kittens, fine. > If you don't like pictures of children, fine. > If you don't like pictures of flowers, fine. > If you don't like landscapes, fine. > If you don't like pictures of ducks, fine. > If you don't like furtwanglography, fine. > > But there's absolutely no need to personalise your dislike in the way > that it's been personalised towards Shel and Frank. If you don't like > their style of photography, fine. There are plenty of people here who > don't like your style of photography either, but we live with it > because it's a pluralistic world and we are here - or at least I > thought we were - to share and enjoy the whole subject. > > -- > Cheers, > Bob >
