--- Paul McEvoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Thanks for the feedback everyone.  To save space on
> replying, I won't reply
> to each post, but thanks to Frank, Lasse, and John.
> 
> All the shots were done with a K1000, so I can
> adjust aperture as needed.  I
> just bought an ME Super also, but I think that I can
> adjust aperture with
> that too.
> 
> I understand about how the background is distracting
> from the dancers.  I
> have to say that I really love the background and
> the crowd details and I
> think that it's important to me to capture that this
> is a public performance
> and that people are reacting to what's going on. 
> But I guess I'm not sure
> how to capture that and still maintain enough detail
> in the foreground to
> keep what is happening clear.
> 
> It seems like the shots work better the larger they
> are.  Is that the mark
> of a total beginer?
> 
> I'm definitely going to go back and shoot some more
> film because I think I'm
> learning a lot and it's a lot of fun, so I'll try to
> use all the advice.  I
> may try standing on a pillar there and shooting from
> above and see how that
> goes.  It's a difficult situation, because it's
> taking place in a little pit
> in the middle of a traffic island (kind of like a
> very miniature apitheatre)
> and it's totally surrounded by spectators so it's
> pretty hard to get an
> uncomplicated background.
> 
> Again, thanks everyone for the feedback.  I'm on
> vacation, so it's taken me
> a while to get back to you.
> 

Hi, Paul,

First of all, the ME is an aperture priority body, so
you just set the aperture you want, and it sets the
shutter speed for you.  But, you already know that...
<g>

And, although I just said the following to Keith in my
last post, I'll repeat it again here:

I'm not talking about getting rid of the background
completely as much as getting some separation.  I'm
not saying it's going to be easy, or even possible,
I'm just saying it may be desirable.

Here's an example of a photo taken with a wide open
aperture.  The guy in green is my friend, Malcolm, and
I wanted to isolate him somewhat.  So, while he may
not be ~that~ sharp (bike racing ain't my thing, so
I'm not too good at it), he's more in focus than
anyone else in the frame, even though they're only a
few feet from him:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2495243&size=lg

I agree that crowds are a good thing - they add
character to a shot.  Hell, they were dancing on a
street and surrounded by spectators.  You should want
to catch that.  

I'm also not trying to say that my way is the only
way, the best way, or even desirable.  I guess what
I'm saying is try lots of different things, and see
how you like the results.  Mind you, it sounds like
you're doing that already <g>.

BTW, most shots look better as they get bigger.  I
tend to think that means your stuff is good.  If they
get worse the bigger they get, you should ask what's
wrong.

If smaller were better, we'd go to the photolab and
pick up postage stamp sized prints!  <vbg>

Hope I'm not coming across as preachy or patronizing -
as anyone here will tell you, I pretty much don't know
what I'm talking about, and you should ignore me if at
all possible!  <vbg>

cheers,
frank



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