On 26 Aug 2004 at 9:46, Mick Maguire wrote:

> You may not have the problems so much (as you are prepared to look after the
> output carefully) however, I am finding increasingly that my old music CDs (some
> go back to the mid 80's) are degrading - sound quality is impaired but some have
> even started skipping and a few are unplayable. This isn't due to dirt or
> scratches (I am extremely careful with them), it's down to oxidation. The same
> is going to happen to CDRs and DVDs and when it does the likelyhood of getting
> the data off of them may be very slim. I think this will be more of a problem
> for Joe Public digi-snappers (as we have been talkign about). I think serious
> amateurs and pros will be better able to deal with it.

I think DVD (in all forms) will prove to be a more reliable media than CD and 
its derivatives if only for the fact that the construct is a polycarbonate 
sandwich unlike CD. I too have pressed CDs with holes in the reflective 
coatings and I also have examples with their edges eaten by fungus. None are 
yet unplayable and very few cause C2 errors on my various CD readers.  I have a 
wedge disc for aligning CD decks and I suspect that most people would be very 
surprised at just how much track can be obscured before any problems can be 
detected at the audio out-puts on a good deck.

My archive CDs however have had very little handling and have been kept in near 
optimal conditions unlike many of my audio CDs (many of which have also been 
purchased second hand to make it worse).

I think the problems cited relating to Joe Public digi-snappers are over-rated 
somewhat. Like others have mentioned I beleive that most people treat their 
films pretty poorly if they actually keep them at all and if they do most 
couldn't find the one for the print that they actually want to enlarge. 

I recall vividly that my array of aunts and uncles never seemed to have negs 
for any of the family pics I would have liked to have copies of. Dad however 
always looked after his negs, as a consequence I have a great record of my 
early years, except of course the ones where the negs have faded into oblivion. 
A you suggest anyone who is serious enough will attempt to protect their images 
by whatever means satisfies their paranoia level :-)


Rob Studdert
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