On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:19:48 -0400, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You and Shel are the leading proponents of not cropping on the list, I just said
> that to get your goats. They are after all just snaps showing the flooding, so I
> thought I would raise them to art by being pretentious (grin).  <snip>
> 

Tom,

Well, I'll invite Shel to state his own views (I wouldn't be so
presumtuous as to state anything on his behalf  <LOL>), however,
AFAIK, Shel is no proponent of full frame prints.

Since you raise the issue, let me state for the record:

1)  My preference is to show my prints full frame.  If anyone really
cares to know why, I'm happy to discuss the matter further, either on
or off list.

2)  Sometimes I find it necessary to crop, if something is in the
frame that just ruins the imact of the photo.  Or sometimes, the
framing I did in the viewfinder just plain sucks, and reframing by
cropping produces an immeasurably better print.  If I deem it
necessary, I'll crop.

3)  Just so's y'all know, if  I show a print (either on-line or a real
print) with a black rebate, that always means it's uncropped:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2644124

If it doesn't have the black rebate, it's either cropped or scanned
from a minlab print or quickprint.

In all likelihood, well over 90% of the prints I show here and
everywhere else are uncropped.

4)  This is merely a personal policy that I've decided to impose upon
myself for my own prints.  If someone else crops as a matter of
course, that's fine;  I make no judgements.  What's important to me is
what the print that I'm looking at looks like;  I don't care how it
got that way.  I don't particularly advocate that anyone emulate me
(God forbid, who would want to do that!!  <vbg>).

5)  I knew you were being pretetious...  <vbg>

cheers,
frank











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