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On 15/9/04 10:46 pm, "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look, I'm a very big proponent of both backwards compatibility (in all > things, not just cameras) and perhaps an even greater proponent of manual > gear than most other people on this list. When the istD came out it was > almost impossible to use the K and M lenses on the camera, although, > surprisingly, the old screw mounts worked perfectly as I understand it - > perhaps even better than on the original Spotties since shutter speed > didn't have to be adjusted. I was a little disappointed, but the > workaround - if you choose to call it that - essentially solved the > compatibility problem of the K and M lenses, certainly well enough for just > about everyone on the list who bought an istD. Paul's recent action shots > seem lend credence to the ability of the K and M lens to do work quite well > in the istd. OTOH, you seem to be the biggest complainer, yet you don't > have a Pentax DSLR, have never used the workaround to see how easy or > difficult it may be to use. To some that may seem a little odd. > > In reality, complete backwards compatibility has to be given up at some > point in order to move forward. I don't like it, I'm not sure that's true > in EVERY case - and since I'm no techie-digi-equipment-gearhead I can't > speak to how difficult or easy it would be to have made the istD 100% > compatible with every lens ever produced by Pentax - but that's the way it > is. Parts from my newer Mercedes don't fit on my 1972 model, and there's > not a damned thing on my beat up 1984 Toyota that will fit and work on a > newer one. > > For all we know Pentax may have some future plans for that body, or for > future lenses to be used on that and other bodies, that made it difficult > or impractical to use that cam that you speak of. We don't know. But what > we do have is a fix for the original problem that seems to satisfy all but > the most critical (non)user of the istD. And when you add all this to the > fact that every lens pentax ever made for 35mm cameras, plus other formats, > plus lenses from other manufacturers, will now work on the istD, there's > nothing to complain about, IMO. > > Shel > > >> [Original Message] >> From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 9/15/2004 1:09:28 PM >> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera! >> >> I know the camera cant do open aperture metering/AE at all >> based on discussions when the camera came out. >> That is NOT a good thing. That is a big reason I DON'T >> own and use one. I don't buy things that don't have what >> I want/need. >> JCO >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:23 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera! >> >> >> So then you're not familiar with how the istD uses the older lenses, is >> that correct? >> >>> From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Date: 9/15/2004 11:17:07 AM >>> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera! >>> >>> I am very curious as to how the *istD could EVER fully support the K/M >> >>> mount lenses when it doesn't have the sorely missed aperture sensing >>> cam, a $10 part found even in the cheapie K1000. Without knowing the >>> relative aperture setting , how can the camera ever do open aperture >>> metering? JCO > >