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On 15/9/04 10:46 pm, "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Look, I'm a very big proponent of both backwards compatibility (in all
> things, not just cameras) and perhaps an even greater proponent of manual
> gear than most other people on this list.  When the istD came out it was
> almost impossible to use the K and M lenses on the camera, although,
> surprisingly, the old screw mounts worked perfectly as I understand it -
> perhaps even better than on the original Spotties since shutter speed
> didn't have to be adjusted.  I was a little disappointed, but the
> workaround - if you choose to call it that - essentially solved the
> compatibility problem of the K and M lenses, certainly well enough for just
> about everyone on the list who bought an istD.  Paul's recent action shots
> seem lend credence to the ability of the K and M lens to do work quite well
> in the istd.  OTOH, you seem to be the biggest complainer, yet you don't
> have a Pentax DSLR, have never used the workaround to see how easy or
> difficult it may be to use.  To some that may seem a little odd.
> 
> In reality, complete backwards compatibility has to be given up at some
> point in order to move forward.  I don't like it, I'm not sure that's true
> in EVERY case - and since I'm no techie-digi-equipment-gearhead I can't
> speak to how difficult or easy it would be to have made the istD 100%
> compatible with every lens ever produced by Pentax - but that's the way it
> is. Parts from my newer Mercedes don't fit on my 1972 model, and there's
> not a damned thing on my beat up 1984 Toyota that will fit and work on a
> newer one.
> 
> For all we know Pentax may have some  future plans for that body, or for
> future lenses to be used on that and other bodies, that made it difficult
> or impractical to use that cam that you speak of.  We don't know.  But what
> we do have is a fix for the original problem that seems to satisfy all but
> the most critical (non)user of the istD.  And when you add all this to the
> fact that every lens pentax ever made for 35mm cameras, plus other formats,
> plus lenses from other manufacturers, will now work on the istD, there's
> nothing to complain about, IMO.
> 
> Shel 
> 
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 9/15/2004 1:09:28 PM
>> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera!
>> 
>> I know the camera cant do open aperture metering/AE at all
>> based on discussions when the camera came out.
>> That is NOT a good thing. That is a big reason I DON'T
>> own and use one. I don't buy things that don't have what
>> I want/need.
>> JCO
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:23 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera!
>> 
>> 
>> So then you're not familiar with how the istD uses the older lenses, is
>> that correct?
>> 
>>> From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: 9/15/2004 11:17:07 AM
>>> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera!
>>> 
>>> I am very curious as to how the *istD could EVER fully support the K/M
>> 
>>> mount lenses when it doesn't have the sorely missed aperture sensing
>>> cam, a $10 part found even in the cheapie K1000. Without knowing the
>>> relative aperture setting , how can the camera ever do open aperture
>>> metering? JCO
> 
> 

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