I thought it was a bit rash too, considering I've heard a lot of good stuff
about the 50 and 100 Sigma Macros, and I know that the 28-70 2.8 can produce
reliably outstanding results on a film body.

However, Wally probably was getting a bit frustrated after taking a beating
on the dpreview forums from some other posters who didn't really seem to get
the issues he brought up. If I understand correctly, he's an electrical
engineer an came to the logical conclusion that it was a lens compatibility
issue not a camera issue. I'm not sure myself, but I'll have to wait and see
if my ist D comes back fixed (whether the new circuit board works) before I
make draw any conclusions.
I'll paste some of my correspondence with Wally below, if you're interested
(interesting read, more interesting if you're into conspiracy theories).

Anyway, I suppose if you can afford to go out there and try it all, and
you're not in a rush, why not. :)

Cheers,
Ryan

-snip-

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tpx20" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:50 PM
Subject: RE: The ist D/ 28-70 2.8 DF issue..


> Hi Ryan,
>
> I saw your posting on dpreview.
>
> Today, 3 people I trust who have Pentax and Tamron lenses have confirmed
> that the *istD does not alter the focus point when the aperture is changed
> in AV using Tamron or Pentax lenses.
>
> All my sigma lenses including a DC lens do, all theses other people's
sigma
> lenses DO.
>
> I have tested my lenses on another brand new *istD, no difference.
>
> I recall reading a thread on dpreview that Tamron paid the Pentax
royalties
> for the Pentax lens communications protocol while sigma would not pay and
> only reverse engineered it, looks like they got it WRONG.
>
> There is no one at CR Kennedy Victoria who now doesn't know about this
> problem and see it as a very serious issue.
>
> It will be interesting to see what they come up with since CRK also import
> sigma lenses.
>
> I firmly believe the *istD is NOT at fault, it is the sigma lens and it
can
> be fixed by a very quick simple reprogramming of the chip inside the lens
> with the CORRECT PARAMETERS, I can only see it happening if Sigma hand
over
> some money to Pentax, but I feel it has to happen or Sigma lens sales will
> suffer badly.
>
> In your particular case it matters not that your lens is out of warranty
[I
> think you said it's out of warranty], it wasn't correctly manufactured to
be
> compatible with Pentax like it claims on the box and in sigma's
> specifications, look at it much the same as a free RECALL.
>
> Cheers
> Wally.


---another snip----

> Hi Ryan this old post on mis focus on the pentax forum mentions
> "confidentiality"
>
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1028&message=8235029
>
> extract below
>
> Cheers
> Wally
>
> Now onto the mis-focusing issue. You didn't miss any previous posts of
mine,
> in relationship to my discussions with Pentax and their response. In fact
> because of a promissed confidentiality agreement I made (and I certainly
> know you can respet this), I honestly should not have relayed as much as I
> did already did. I think sharing info is an important ingrediant in this
or
> any hobby or profession...but when info is requested to be kept in the
> private domain till a proper response by a company is forcoming, we can
all
> agree it's important to honor that request, otherwise the working
> relationship with that company is severed. Thats why I have to limit what
I
> discussed with them. As I already mentioned, they are well aware of the
> issue of mis-focusing under the circumstances thats been very well
described
> and are aware of the underlying problem. The problem is two fold and thats
> why it's not as easy as a simple re-write to the software. They are
> currently looking into a working solution but keep in mind that the
> marketable lifespan of any digital camera is extremely short and the time
> and effort and cost into a fix may not be worthwhile, especially that the
> number of individuals who utilize many of the offending fast lenses are
> relatively small. It's unlike film based SLr's that lasted in current
> inventory for sometimes yesrs, such as the Lx...and we all know the
running
> changes made to that camera. Even Nikon and their most diasterous digital
> issue (band with the original D1), took the sceems of thousands of pro's
to
> get them to perform a" silent fix," but even to this day have yet to
> acknoledge there is a problem. Threats of a class action law suit probably
> helped the Pro's cause in that particular case. In any case they have
> acknowledged that some of the main concerns or issues of the istD will be
> addressed in the forthcoming model, even if a lower end version of the
istD.
> It's much more cost effective to address issues this way then with a model
> that has a short life span relative to the digital SLR world. I give
Pentax
> credit, they have always been a company responsive to issues, much more so
> than many others in the photographic relm. if there is more info
forthcoming
> or a resolution realted to this issue that I am free to discuss, you can
be
> sure I would let you and everyone else know, thats a certainty. I know you
> would do the same. I too have resorted to MF with certain lenses hen used
> wide open (years of shooting all those Spotmatics, Mx's Lx's and medium
> format). Still as yoy mentioned, there are times when Af becomes a
necessary
> reuirement to be compeitive under certain demanding circumstances and it's
> nice to know it's there and reliable. Thanks again for your vey useful
> comments.
> Dave



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: update on my ist D's status


> Interesting, your friend has the same problem you do which apparently
> turns out to be a defective circuit board. So he is going to dump the
> lenses, never mind that when it does not work with all the lenses, it is
> probably not the lenses that are the problem. Then he is going to get a
> genuine Pentax lens.
>
> What makes him think that will fix the camera problem? --Your friend
> seems to think emotionally, rather than rationally.
>
> --
>
> Ryan Lee wrote:
>
> > I rang CR Kennedy to check when I was going to get my ist D back (sent
it in
> > for AF inaccuracy with the Sigma 28-70 2.8 DF, and battery depleted
message
> > when connecting to the laptop with battery grip) and they told me they
were
> > waiting for a part. I asked which part and they told me they were
replacing
> > a circuit board in the camera.. How bizarre.
> >
> > But anyway, it better be working when I get it back (they told me it'd
be
> > another 2 weeks! :( )
> >
> > And another poster on DPReview (WallyOZ) updated me on his woes with the
> > same camera and the same lens, apparently he's returning the Sigma 28-70
> > 2.8, 50 2.8 Macro and 100 2.8 Macro, and going to cash it in for a Nikon
D70
> > and lens, and also get a Pentax lens for the Pentax. He also told me he
was
> > on the waiting list for the 20D! Apparently he's sick of opinions and
> > decided to try them all out himself. I told him to wait for the Maxxum
7D,
> > and from what he replied, I won't be surprised if he gives that a try
when
> > it's out..
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ryan (on an epic quest towards budget liberation..)
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> graywolf
> http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
>
>
>


Reply via email to