I got the Tokina AT-X 70-200 f2.8, manual focus version for $227.  I hope it will 
perform better or equal than my $20 consumer grade
Takumar 135mm f2.5 so I can retire it.

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From: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Is M or A better?


> > Can the 70-210 f4 zoom really perform better than prime 200 f4
> > when used wide open ?
>
> Yes, my sample did. Both lenses are in pristine condition by the way.
>
> > How about first Vivitar Series 1 70-210 f3.5?
>
> Never used one, apparently the third variation is the best.
>
> Which lens is best when used at 200 f4?
>
> Out of all the lenses I tested lately I found the 200mm f/4 M to be best out
> of the following listed in best first order:
>
> 1. SMC Pentax M 200 f/4
> 2. SMC Pentax FA 80-320mm (200mm @ f/4.5)
> 3. SMC Pentax A 70-210mm f/4
> 4. SMC Pentax A 200mm f/4
>
> However the 200 M had the lowest contrast of all.
>
> John
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: "David Zaninovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:34:30 -0400
> Subject: Re: Is M or A better?
>
> > Can the 70-210 f4 zoom really perform better than prime 200 f4
> > when used wide open ?  How about first Vivitar Series 1 70-210 f3.5
> > ?  Which lens is best when used at 200 f4 ?  Is f4 bright enough and
> > have shallow enough DOF to get accurate focus ?  I am now using
> > cheap Takumar 135 f2.5 with a hood to increase contrast as it is not
> > SMC and it is very bright and really easy to focus but sometimes I
> > want to get closer or to zoom-out.  Does the 70-210 f4 zoom have the
> > same problems as Vivitar when you point it down or up, does the zoom
> > move ?
> >
> > >
> > > Totally agree. BTW A 70-210 f/4 zoom performs better than A 200 f/4 prime
> > >
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