It is most evident now that you post these pics here with the purpose of starting social/political debates and not artistical/technical ones related to photography. May I suggest some other controversial subjects like guns/abortion/religion. This would help make the list perfectly unreadable.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

You look but you do not see ... tis a shame you are so jaded and cynical. She's smiling, there's direct eye contact, and she's not the least bit
"grumpy" with my presence. Your comments are worthless since you've made
them based on unwarranted assumptions and lack of observation. In
addition, apart from being totally mistaken about the photograph, you're
attempting to point a negative finger at me personally. Well, I won't take
it quietly like I did with the last pic I put up.


My comments were not to evoke sympathy, but to show a similarity between
two extreme segments of the population.  Both can enjoy a pleasant morning
breakfast in bed regardless of social and economic class or their physical
situation.  It's sad you only perceive the negative.

To judge someone and their life as you've done is just a load of crap. Consider yourself fortunate that you don't have the problems that put this
woman on the sidewalk that morning. Consider that you're not mentally ill,
that you have some form of socialized medicine to help you when you need
attention, that you may have family or friends which she may not have, and
you have other resources, both financial and social, to help you should you
have the problems that this woman has.


It is easy to look down on someone, but, perhaps more difficult to show
empathy and understanding until you've experienced some of what they've
experienced. Clearly you have not, or, if you have, you have a short
memory.



Thanks for the scanning tip.

Shel



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From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Portraits of the Less Fortunate, as Shel calls them, can be
interesting. With Shel's intro it seems like we're supposed to feel
sorry for this lady, for all the obvious social reasons.This photo
fails to provoke such emotions with me. She's just an obese woman,
smoking and munching junk food on the pavement. There's no eye
contact, and the lady looks grumpy. Possibly with the photographer's
presence?







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