Greater bit depth provides greater dynamic range.  That was discussed here
a week or so past, and that's what I understood from the likes of John
Francis and others, whose opinions and technical expertise I have come to
trust  Anyway, all the technical talk gives me a headache. Amplitude
shmaplitude (to paraphrase another thread),  I'm only reporting what I've
seen and what I've come to understand from those, both on and off this
list, who are true experts when it comes to working with digital files. 
Like I said, I'm mostly ignorant about these things, and maybe my
terminology is sometimes incorrect, but I stand by my statement, qualifiers
and all.  So, if you want to argue your point on technical grounds and
theory, I'm outta here, because I just don't know enough of the terminology
and will get lost very easily.  I just know what I've seen and what the
experts have shown and told me.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 11/4/2004 10:29:16 PM
> Subject: RE: USAF target and resolution tests
>
> I think you might have misunderstanding of what higher bit 
> depth means.
>
> Bit depth is a amplitude resolution parameter, not
> a dynamic range parameter. Dynamic range of a digital sensor
> is independent of the bit depth of the output. More bits 
> does not mean more dynamic range, it just means more gray shades.
>
> Bit depth is the number of grey shades from **output** pure black 
> to **output** pure white, dynamic range on the other hand is the number
> of **input** fstops between the
> sensor's  pure white (clipping)output  and the sensor's dark noise(pure
> black) output . Two different digital
> sensors can have same bit depth but different dynamic range
> or vice versa....
>
> What I was referring to about specialized films is that super low
> contrast films could have a greater DYNAMIC RANGE than digital
> for extremely contrasty scenes and super high contrast films could have
> a better amplitude
> resolution (bit depth) for extremely low contrast scenes than digital.
>
>
> JCO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 12:58 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: USAF target and resolution tests
>
>
> I'm saying that, from what I've seen of high bit RAW files, yes, I
> believe they can.  Again, take my comments with a grain of salt (and
> note the
> qualifiers) as I'm still just learning this stuff, and have just started
> to work with digi RAW files. Remember, digital can be very well matched
> with the scene, and there's control for manipulation throughout the
> workflow.  
>
> Shel 
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 11/4/2004 9:50:03 PM
> > Subject: RE: USAF target and resolution tests
> >
> > Are you saying that digital sensors can capture as wide
> > a scene contrast range as the widest range (low contrast) color neg 
> > films can?
> >
> > Are you saying that digital sensors can capture as narrow
> > a scene contrast range as accurately range as the highest contrast 
> > color slide films?
> >
> > JCO
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 12:12 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: USAF target and resolution tests
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure your assessment of digital (especially 12-bit or greater 
> > RAW
> > files) is correct.  Maybe with the 8-bit digicams that are so much in 
> > use, but not with a higher end DSLR with 12-bit or 14-bit capture.
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> > > Film has major advantage over digital in that
> > > the film type selection can be matched to the requirements. Digital 
> > > is
> >
> > > more of a general purpose capture which I do not think would do as
> > > well as film on very low or very high contrast scenes shot with 
> > > correct types of film.
> >
>


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