TTL flash metering is not the same a TLL AUTO FLASH.
TTL flash metering gives you the correct fstop value to use
with a fixed (usually maximum output) flash power.

TTL Auto flash on the other hand uses a fixed fstop
and adjusts the flash power DOWN to match that fstop
via TTL. Not the same and not as good when you need
maximum light....

JCO

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Question About Macro Lenses


Most SLR cameras made in the last 25 years or so can do TTL flash 
metering. The LX does it quite nicely. When checking exposures with a 
DSLR, you don't want to rely on the image review. It can be very 
misleading. You really have to look at the histogram.
On Nov 15, 2004, at 8:30 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> TTL is fine but a lot of people do
> Macro with strobes (myself included),
> and I am not aware of any SLR cameras
> that can do TTL flash metering.
>
> My technique is I use a flash meter, calculate
> bellows factor exposure compensation, and determine
> a base fstop. But even then I usually bracket
> unless I have used exact same lighting setup, film speed, lens and 
> magnification, etc.
>
> I would imagine with a DSLR its just a matter
> of running a few exposures and adjust fstop
> until you get what you want on the image review
> screen.
>
> JCO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: A Question About Macro Lenses
>
>
> On 15 Nov 2004 at 7:23, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>
>> Unless the 125mm zoomed out to 62.5mm at 1:1, it is
>> going to need exposure compensation.
>
> Of course you are correct, I was simply drawing a relative comparison
> to
>
> another lens.
>
>> What you have is essentially
>> a variable aperture zoom with that lens, how do
>> do you know what exposure compensations to use?
>
> I don't really care but I do know now that relative to a "non-zoom" 
> macro lens it requires about an extra half stop when approaching 1:1. 
> I haven't used
> external meters for macro photography since the late 80's. Then I had
a
> 67 and
> bellows and I was glad to get my hands on a TTL prism.
>
>> Does the lens barrel have exposure compensation
>> markings on it?
>
> No
>
>> At least with a fixed focal length and aperture you
>> can calculate the correct compensations based on magnification or 
>> bellows extension, but with variable aperture those techniques won't 
>> work...
>
> ..or you (I) could use the TTL metering, which I do quite 
> successfully.
>
>
> Rob Studdert
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