On 16 Dec 2004 at 7:53, Jack Davis wrote: > Another naive subjective dip in the list knowledge > well.. > Do grain dissolving programs effectively discern what > is grain? Are you left with an unrecoverable soft > image? Does re-sharpening revive the grain and defeat > the effect? > Which program(s) have you heard good things about?
Grain Surgery seems highly regarded, it can remove, synthesize and match grain patterns but I can't comment with any authority as I've not used it. I have however used both NeatImage and NoiseNija, both are very effective, they rely upon noise profiles which allows them to perform noise/grain reduction in profiled media quite accurately. There is generally some very subtle detail lost in the case of images with little grain or noise to start with but in the case of noisy images it's usually a definite gain. NeatImage provides a little more control over the noise reduction and can be configured to preserve details more completely (at the expense of the retention of some grain/noise artifacts). Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:16:00 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:16:00 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:00 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx24.postini.com ([64.18.0.139] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3ui-0007JB-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:00 -0800 Received: from source ([138.25.7.4]) by exprod5mx24.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:43 PST Received: from maddog.slug.org.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maddog.slug.org.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B98E10A308; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:16:13 +1100 (EST) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by maddog.slug.org.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEA7109FCB for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:16:07 +1100 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so452067rne for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ClDrMZ+pQIRXV5ynxsvNn6Ld/rJ/M0yeYqVgYjSuJSZ3NgwEKBoiiiQjrWirQjpiNsduJkoyTcMjq4DCJdZGJkgI4lzu3yiOWI4UZRrE3+lZqoxwgLGb6pU56SMTOOvwRImcUihEh3Cs6CKVlSld51hmNamVmDBPj5tEYCm7iTM= Received: by 10.38.77.49 with SMTP id z49mr1371179rna; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.151.1 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:18:03 +1100 From: Vlad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Slug List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Backing up before a major reorg on a laptop In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vlad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Linux and Free Software Discussion <slug.slug.org.au> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Interesting topic Stuart, i am interested in this too. I have an LG laptop with the "secret restore" partition for XP. I am now ready to delete Win XP portion of the disk and reclaim that secret partition, so i'm curious to see what responses you get. vlad On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:56:59 +1100, Stuart Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there > > Firstly merry Xmas to one and all, thanks for your advice over the year > and I hope mine hasn't lead to too many disk reformats! > > I'm about to re-jig my laptop which due to client needs has Linux on one > partion and winXP on another. > > I'm going to back the whole thing up to my server before starting. I was > wondering what the best technique to use is to ensure all partions, boot > thingys and secret 'ibm restore' partions all make successfully. > > I've got a thinkpad X31 if that helps. I'm thinking dd which I have > never used but I'm concerned that on restore of partions 'doze will fail > to boot if I don't get everything - I mean everything backed up in the > correct manner. > > Any thoughts multo appreciato. > > Stu > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:16:18 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:16:18 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:18 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx98.postini.com ([64.18.0.86] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3v0-0007JS-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:18 -0800 Received: from source ([62.15.149.212]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx98.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:57 PST Received: from obelix.jjserveis.com (obelix.jjserveis.com [127.0.0.1]) by obelix.jjserveis.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBGMFWZ6025170; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:15:35 +0100 Received: from tnetsmtp2.mail.isp (smtp.telefonica.net [213.4.129.135]) by obelix.jjserveis.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBGMFTZ5025161 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:15:30 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([81.44.95.172]) by tnetsmtp2.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id I8U5TR02.1LE for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:15:27 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:15:22 +0100 From: Miquel Pujol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: ca MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Internauta] hotmail i Outlook Express References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter 1.0.4; AVE 6.29.0.5; VDF 6.29.0.21 X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter 1.0.4; AVE 6.29.0.5; VDF 6.29.0.21 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?L=27Internauta_de_Catalunya_R=E0dio?= <internauta.internauta.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://zeus.internauta.net/mailman/listinfo/internauta>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://zeus.internauta.net/mailman/private/internauta> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://zeus.internauta.net/mailman/listinfo/internauta>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Perdona ho he dit malament. 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>> Invalid validation messages ( allegedly) An action state needs exactly >one outgoing transition that is not an exception-transition. >> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Key: BPM-125 >> URL: http://team.andromda.org:8080/jira/browse/BPM-125 >> Project: Bpm4Struts Cartridge >> Type: Bug >> Reporter: Martin West >> Assignee: Wouter Zoons >> Attachments: mdl.zip >> >> >> Zillions of stack trace preceeding this .... >> cadeLogicImpl.java:62) >> at >org.andromda.metafacades.uml14.TransitionFacadeLogic.isEnteringDecisionPoint(TransitionFacadeLogic.java:103) >> at >org.andromda.cartridges.bpm4struts.metafacades.StrutsForwardLogic.isEnteringDecisionPoint(StrutsForwardLogic.java:752) >> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) >> at >sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) >> at >sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) >> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324) >> at >org.andromda.translation.validation.OCLIntrospector.getProperty(OCLIntrospector.java:147) >> at >org.andromda.translation.validation.OCLIntrospector.getNestedProperty(OCLIntrospector.java:99) >> at >org.andromda.translation.validation.OCLIntrospector.invoke(OCLIntrospector.java:43) >> ... 81 more >> ERROR [AndroMDA:VALIDATION:ERROR] 1) >org.andromda.cartridges.bpm4struts.metafacades.StrutsActionState[Check >Login]:An action state needs exactly one outgoing transition that is not >an exception-transition. >> ERROR [AndroMDA:VALIDATION:ERROR] 2) >org.andromda.cartridges.bpm4struts.metafacades.StrutsActionState[Start >Login]:An action state needs exactly one outgoing transition that is not >an exception-transition. >> ERROR [AndroMDA:VALIDATION:ERROR] 3) >org.andromda.cartridges.bpm4struts.metafacades.StrutsActionState[undefined]:An >action state needs exactly one outgoing transition that is not an >exception-transition. >> ERROR [AndroMDA:VALIDATION:ERROR] 4) >org.andromda.cartridges.bpm4struts.metafacades.StrutsForward[undefined]:If >a transition exits from a decision point it needs a guard. >> INFO [AndroMDA] completed model processing, TIME --> 48.933[s] - 4 >VALIDATION ERROR(S) > -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://team.andromda.org:8080/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. 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Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Andromda-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/andromda-devel From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:16:20 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:16:20 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:20 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx11.postini.com ([64.18.0.151] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3v2-0007Jn-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:20 -0800 Received: from source ([138.25.7.4]) by exprod5mx11.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:19:03 PST Received: from maddog.slug.org.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maddog.slug.org.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C7E10A894; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:16:31 +1100 (EST) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by maddog.slug.org.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E0C109FCB for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:16:27 +1100 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so452107rne for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=sBwHoKYPlhXBvMhW/2ihd49VwPjVDfWGyMfBl2YhraPaHX+5wN6itFcvXFxaubp8hd8E1jsUNUfLLB1ioKqiAT07fl5CLQNYgjOlLl6C50qRONjHgCo8uHnHnf7FiJkhPQBEVKeC6541K77wAVxPJtG892Y4w3JhmV0CN0uoIHE= Received: by 10.38.10.73 with SMTP id 73mr1788842rnj; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.151.1 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:18:03 +1100 From: Vlad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Slug List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Backing up before a major reorg on a laptop In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vlad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Linux and Free Software Discussion <slug.slug.org.au> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 Interesting topic Stuart, i am interested in this too. I have an LG laptop with the "secret restore" partition for XP. I am now ready to delete Win XP portion of the disk and reclaim that secret partition, so i'm curious to see what responses you get. vlad On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:56:59 +1100, Stuart Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there > > Firstly merry Xmas to one and all, thanks for your advice over the year > and I hope mine hasn't lead to too many disk reformats! > > I'm about to re-jig my laptop which due to client needs has Linux on one > partion and winXP on another. > > I'm going to back the whole thing up to my server before starting. I was > wondering what the best technique to use is to ensure all partions, boot > thingys and secret 'ibm restore' partions all make successfully. > > I've got a thinkpad X31 if that helps. I'm thinking dd which I have > never used but I'm concerned that on restore of partions 'doze will fail > to boot if I don't get everything - I mean everything backed up in the > correct manner. > > Any thoughts multo appreciato. > > Stu > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:16:20 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:16:20 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:20 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx4.postini.com ([64.18.0.144] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3v2-0007Js-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:20 -0800 Received: from source ([209.237.227.199]) by exprod5mx4.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:19:04 PST Received: (qmail 24175 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2004 22:19:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: "Log4J Developers List" <log4j-dev.logging.apache.org> Reply-To: "Log4J Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 24157 invoked by uid 99); 16 Dec 2004 22:19:03 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from gulcu002.worldcom.ch (HELO mail.qos.ch) (212.74.184.210) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:08 -0800 Received: from kal.qos.ch (kal [192.168.1.3]) by mail.qos.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7AA1EC079 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:25:01 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:17:37 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ceki =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FClc=FC?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [TODO] SMTPAppender enhancements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=ham version=2.64 Hello all, I just added pattern conversion support for the Subject line for emails generated by SMTPAppender. The set of patterns is the same as those supported by PatternLayout. Yoav recently applied a patch by toraneko AT kun DOT ne DOT jp adding charset support for SMTPAppender We are still missing the ability to send emails through SMTP servers requiring authentication. Anyone interested in adding this functionality? (It should not be too hard to do, except that the functionality should be tested with an actual SMTP server requiring authentication.) See also http://issues.eu.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D24969 Please let me know if you are interested. If no one volunteers, I'll do it myself. --=20 Ceki G=FClc=FC The complete log4j manual: http://qos.ch/log4j/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:16:24 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:16:24 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:24 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.0.186] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3v6-0007KS-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:24 -0800 Received: from source ([62.80.28.11]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:19:06 PST Received: from draenor.its-toasted.org ([62.80.28.8] ident=list) by thrall.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Cf3xW-00008t-SS; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:18:54 +0100 Received: from smtp06.wanadoo.nl ([194.134.35.146]) by draenor.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cf3xT-0004mp-48 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:18:51 +0100 Received: from localhost (c3eea0a6f.cable.wanadoo.nl [62.234.10.111]) by smtp6.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B7725356 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:18:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:18:46 +0100 From: Henk de Bruijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.2.10) Professional Organization: Secured by Design X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sean Rima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Rogue: :Henk: X-PGP: key request at http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x12069B93DBE6E678 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylisted-at: draenor.its-toasted.org Subject: Re: GnuPG 1.4.0 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com List-Unsubscribe: <http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbbeta>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbbeta>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:37.52657/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.64 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello Sean, On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:51:03 +0000GMT (16-12-2004, 21:51 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SR> Thursday, December 16, 2004, 8:07:06 PM, you wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> Bad sig? SR> Good sig :) SR> Sean It is a pity that all my good sigs come from Thunderbird and not from the Bat! :-( - -- cheers, Henk ______________________________________________________________________ :beta: The Bat!™ Natural Email System v3.0.2.10 Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://gswot.webhop.info/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) iD8DBQFBwgm9Egabk9vm5ngRArgzAJ0ZURjgFPGolJn2xv7hTp+fJfoafACg1FsE +0F51OSANb52UgrM7YAevxA= =K4ly -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:16:24 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:16:24 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:24 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx128.postini.com ([64.18.0.42] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3v6-0007KU-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:24 -0800 Received: from source ([129.33.28.113]) by exprod5mx128.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:19:07 CST Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=swg3ws026.southbury.usf.ibm.com) by oss.software.ibm.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1Cf3xh-0007mR-00; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:19:05 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.elmer.external.excelhustler.com (gatekeeper.excelhustler.com [68.99.114.105]) by www-126.ibm.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id iBGMI1829895 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:18:01 -0500 Received: from chatterbox.elmer.internal.excelhustler.com (unknown [192.168.0.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "chatterbox.elmer.internal.excelhustler.com", Issuer "excelhustler.com" (not verified)) by gatekeeper.elmer.external.excelhustler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF24113183; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:17:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chatterbox.elmer.internal.excelhustler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07910113182; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:17:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from chatterbox.elmer.internal.excelhustler.com ([192.168.0.12]) by localhost (chatterbox [192.168.0.12]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTP id 32191-02; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:17:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from wile.internal.excelhustler.com (wile.internal.excelhustler.com [192.168.1.34]) by chatterbox.elmer.internal.excelhustler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFF1F3787; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:17:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by wile.internal.excelhustler.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8DC8D1501F; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:17:53 -0600 (CST) From: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jon Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Jfs-discussion] Strange problem with JFS Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at excelhustler.com Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/oss/mailman/listinfo/jfs-discussion>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: <jfs-discussion.www-124.ibm.com> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/oss/mailman/listinfo/jfs-discussion>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://www-124.ibm.com/pipermail/jfs-discussion/> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:17:53 -0600 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=ham version=2.64 On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 03:54:46PM -0600, Jon Nelson wrote: > > I encountered something very strange last night similar to other reports > of starvation (at least different reports by John Goerzen and others, > back to June and July). Interesting you should mention that, as I've seen a few mild cases myself. Let's compare notes... > I've got 3x 80G IDE drives in a raid5 array (150G or so usuable). > On top of that I've got LVM. No RAID going on here, but I do use LVM everywhere I possibly can. [ snip ] > Even an ls in a directory with < 20 entries would take 20+ minutes to > complete. This is on a Duron 750 with 1 GB of RAM. Anything involving Very similar to what I saw, but much more extreme. > and the system was totally usable - it would appear that writing (both I noticed my problems during runs of updatedb (for locate). That process basically reads a bunch of directories, probably stats all the files, but never actually opens the files. (I think it runs find.) I wonder if this has something to do with directories or inodes. I haven't lately noticed it with updatedb runs, but I have noticed it periodically when copying, or building ISO images or things like that. -- John (BTW, how's Boa going along these days? I think it was probably about 6 years ago I first contacted you about it.) _______________________________________________ Jfs-discussion mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/oss/mailman/listinfo/jfs-discussion From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:16:21 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:16:21 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:21 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx4.postini.com ([64.18.0.144] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3v2-0007Jt-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:20 -0800 Received: from source ([216.92.131.4]) by exprod5mx4.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:19:04 PST Received: (qmail 72443 invoked by uid 1010); 16 Dec 2004 21:33:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 66314 invoked by uid 1010); 16 Dec 2004 21:32:05 -0000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Kevin Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:28:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02A3_01C4E383.F62F9170" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: [PHP-DB] html display X-pstn-levels: (S:21.73873/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=ham version=2.64 ------=_NextPart_000_02A3_01C4E383.F62F9170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >for displays bigger than 8x6 you can use a div to border the page. for=20 >displays with res smaller, you're s.o.l. you cannot force the browser = to a=20 >smaller res. >bastien that's ok, I want it to display 8x6 if you have your display set to = that, or if you have it set to a higher resolution I want it to display = at 8x6, no matter if you have 1280 x whatever , you dig thx ------=_NextPart_000_02A3_01C4E383.F62F9170-- From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:16:33 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:16:33 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:33 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx61.postini.com ([64.18.0.174] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3vF-0007Ku-00 for <archive@jab.org>; 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charset=US-ASCII X-Rc-Virus: 2004-10-30_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2004-08-29_01 Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/372571 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: <debian-user.lists.debian.org> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/> Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:16:51 -0600 (CST) X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0150) gt3 GT2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] Resent-Bcc: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Nathanael Hasbrouck wrote: > > - knoppix-live cd, suse-live cd, slackware-live cd... > > ( i'm not sure if there is a debian-live cd ) > > Something like MEPIS? we always build our own distro or install what the paying customer wants those that want "free" or out-of-the-box, are sent to redhat or the local stores to buy stuff off-the-shelf or free-iso download places there is not a single distro that suits the needs of all customers that wants different "things" out of what they're looking to buy to get for free - good thing, everybody is different with different requiremnts and have the time or the $$ to backup their "requirements" c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". 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Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:16:59 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:16:59 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:59 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx120.postini.com ([64.18.0.34] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3vf-0007MI-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:16:59 -0800 Received: from source ([213.198.89.44]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx120.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:19:42 EST Received: from web101.virtualserver.ch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by web101.virtualserver.ch (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBGMEaSd038558; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:14:36 +0100 (CET) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by web101.virtualserver.ch (8.13.1/8.12.6/Submit) id iBGMEaIS038557; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:14:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) X-Authentication-Warning: web101.virtualserver.ch: majordom set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f Received: from fep2.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by web101.virtualserver.ch (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBGMEZSr038552 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:14:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from miroslav (d235-142-13.home1.cgocable.net [24.235.142.13]) by fep2.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1520E6BD3; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:14:35 -0500 (EST) From: "ANTIC.org-SNN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'NSP'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'SIM'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Sorabia'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Srpska Informativna Mreza'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'YUGO'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [sim] =?US-ASCII?Q?Davinic_krije_potpisani_stetni_ugovor!_?= Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:14:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009A_01C4E392.B6EC0CF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTjvJ8YtU3HoAMtTsKKuZWBt8sPsg== Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "ANTIC.org-SNN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S: 1.18103/98.83167 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=ham version=2.64 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009A_01C4E392.B6EC0CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Davinic krije potpisani stetni ugovor! 16.12.2004. Skandalozni postupak ministra odbrane u poslu s americkom firmom `Meridian Homes` Prvoslav Davinic, ministar vojni, tesko se ogresio o sluzbeni polozaj potpisivanjem ugovora s americkom firmom `Meridian Homes`.. Da ne govorimo o daljoj finansijskoj transakciji izgradnje vojnih stanova u zamenu za mnogo skuplji prostor u skoro samom centru Beograda od koje bi se mnogi sigurno dobro zbrinuli... Zbog toga je Mladan Dinkic, osim sto je prvi reagovao na stetan ugovor po VJ, hitno zatrazio Davinicevu smenu (?!) o cemu ce biti reci na vec zakazanoj sednici Predsednistva G17! Iako se ovih dana ministar odbrane debelo prao kako on s ovom aferom nema ama bas nikakve veze i da s americkom firmom nije potpisan nikakav ugovor, nego samo predugovor koji sam po sebi nema nikakvo stetno pravno dejstvo po nasu zemlju, i da je to uradio direktor Fonda za reformu sistema odbrane DZ SCG Vladan Zivulovic - ekskluzivno objavljujemo faksimil ugovora koji je licno potpisao bas ministar odbrane Prvoslav Davinic! Time se otvorena medijska polemika oko toga ovim zavrsava... Ugovor je potpisan 4. novembar 2004. godine, a ugovaraci su direktno ispred Ministarstva odbrane Prvoslav Davinic, a u ime `Meridiana Homesa` INC iz Hjustona, zastupnik je Amerikanac - Geri D. Klir! I kao sto je javnosti vec poznato, predmet ovoga ugovora je izgradnja pet stambenih objekata na Bezanijskoj kosi za pripadnike vojske, dok ce zauzvrat ova firma od iste te vojske dobiti u nadoknadi ulozenog za zavrsetak gradnje ni manje ni vise - njihovu zgradu od nesto vise od 20.000 kvadrata poslovnog prostora u ulici Bore Stankovica i Katanicevoj! I laiku je jasno, citajuci potpisani ugovor, da se radi o nesavesnoj trgovini, odnosno losem po zemlju (a zna se za koga dobrom) poslovnom aranzmanu... Koliko kosta kvadrat novogradnje na Bezanijskoj kosi, a koliko kvadrat odmah u upotrebi u skoro najelitnijim gradskim lokacijama? Bar nekoliko puta skuplje! Gradevinski kvadrat kosta na Bezanijskoj kosi maksimum 500 evra, dok se u centralnim zonama grada za isti kvadrat trguje i do 4.000 evra! Posebna je prica stavka ugovora u kojem se strancima oslobada vojna zgrada u roku od 15 dana (!), dok im je ugovorena obaveza da dovrse zapocetu gradnju od strane vojske tek 1. mart 2006. godine! Sta je s vremenskom razlikom od godinu i vise dana za koju ce americka firma koristiti vojnu zgradu, a da nije okoncala posao gradnje? Ugovor je sacinjen, po svemu sudeci, daleko od ociju i usiju javnosti i, kako nezvanicno saznajemo, `sacinila ga je Milana Rakic, koja je kasnije dala saglasnost kao vojni pravobranilac`! Da bi kasnije usledio `ministrov revans za ucinjenu uslugu`, pa je na Savetu ministara izabrana za Generalnog sekretara! U ovu aferu `uvezuje se i Davinicev pomocnik, general Kosovac, koji je u ministarstvu zaduzen za ljudske resurse`, inace clan Atlantskog saveta. Ali, i Branko Crnogorac, dugogodisnji kucni prijatelj ministra Davinica, dok je potpisnik ugovora, Amerikanac Geri Klir, koji odlicno govori srpski jezik - dugogodisnji bliski prijatelj predsednika Borisa Tadica... Nezvanicno, spominje se da iza celokupnog posla na stetu nase drzave stoji poznati lobista Majkl Dordevic. Kad je pukla bruka i kad su ovom temom povrsno poceli da se bave pojedini mediji, prvi je reagovao ministar finansija u Vladi Srbije Mladan Dinkic, trazeci da se isti aranzman odmah stopira i da istovremeno Fond za reformu sistema odbrane VJ otvori racun u NBS, sto je i predvideno po Povelji! Oni to odbijaju i dok traje javna polemika sukobljenih strana, ugovor o ovom poslu, prema tvrdnjama pojedinaca licno zainteresovanih za ovaj slucaj - volsebno nestaje iz predmeta, cime su se otvorile mogucnosti novih spekulacija pa i teza da i nije uopste potpisan! Nacional ga zato javno prilaze kao dokaz svima, posebno ministru Davinicu da ipak postoji i to s njegovim licnim potpisom?! Ministar Dinkic, shvatajuci o cemu se radi, a dobro znajuci ciji je kadar ministar vojni - obavlja pod hitno konsultacije s potpredsednikom Vlade Srbije Miroljubom Labusom posle cega zakazuju sednicu Predsednistva G17 za iducu nedelju! Dinkic ostaje pri svom ultimativnom zahtevu za hitnom smenom Davinica... D. J. Odbio zakup Ujedinjenim nacijama! Ministar Davinic je imao zahtev od UN da uzmu u zakup pomenute vojne zgrade i da na ime zakupa Vojska dobija 100.000 evra! Ali je to glatko odbio! Zbog cega? Revizori kao sudije Po slovu ugovora, ugovorene strane su se saglasile da za procenu fizicke realizacije objekata uzmu medunarodnu revizorsku kucu `BDO BC EXCEL`. Zanimljivo je da se i ministar vojni saglasio da je njihova procena konacna, tako da niko posle njihovog nalaza nema prava zalbe niti ikakve revizije? A, ova kuca je u svetu poznata po cuvenoj aferi FIFA u namestanju fudbalskih rezultata?! Tek toliko i o ovim detaljima famoznog ugovora... Car i u gradnji zgrada vojsci Na Bezanijskoj kosi zapoceta je vec gradnja vojnih stambeno-poslovnih objekata do prvog sprata! Iz ugovora se vidi da su dobijene sve potrebne saglasnosti opstine Novi Beograd, sto znaci da je vec podosta drzavnih para ulozeno. Sada se pojavljuje strana firma koja je trebala da nastavi posao i da za znatno manje od predvidenih para dovrsi zgrade. 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Da ne govorimo o = daljoj=20 finansijskoj transakciji izgradnje vojnih stanova u zamenu za mnogo = skuplji=20 prostor u skoro samom centru Beograda od koje bi se mnogi sigurno dobro=20 zbrinuli...<BR>Zbog toga je Mlađan Dinkić, osim što je = prvi reagovao na štetan=20 ugovor po VJ, hitno zatražio Davinićevu smenu (?!) o čemu = će biti reči na već=20 zakazanoj sednici Predsedništva G17!<BR>Iako se ovih dana ministar = odbrane=20 debelo prao kako on s ovom aferom nema ama baš nikakve veze i da s = američkom=20 firmom nije potpisan nikakav ugovor, nego samo predugovor koji sam po = sebi nema=20 nikakvo štetno pravno dejstvo po našu zemlju, i da je to = uradio direktor Fonda=20 za reformu sistema odbrane DZ SCG Vladan Živulović - = ekskluzivno objavljujemo=20 faksimil ugovora koji je lično potpisao baš ministar odbrane = Prvoslav Davinić!=20 Time se otvorena medijska polemika oko toga ovim = završava...<BR>Ugovor je=20 potpisan 4. novembar 2004. godine, a ugovarači su direktno ispred = Ministarstva=20 odbrane Prvoslav Davinić, a u ime `Meridiana Homesa` INC iz = Hjustona, zastupnik=20 je Amerikanac - Geri D. Klir! I kao što je javnosti već = poznato, predmet ovoga=20 ugovora je izgradnja pet stambenih objekata na Bežanijskoj kosi za = pripadnike=20 vojske, dok će zauzvrat ova firma od iste te vojske dobiti u = nadoknadi uloženog=20 za završetak gradnje ni manje ni više - njihovu zgradu od = nešto više od 20.000=20 kvadrata poslovnog prostora u ulici Bore Stankovića i = Katanićevoj!<BR>I laiku je=20 jasno, čitajući potpisani ugovor, da se radi o nesavesnoj = trgovini, odnosno=20 lošem po zemlju (a zna se za koga dobrom) poslovnom = aranžmanu... Koliko košta=20 kvadrat novogradnje na Bežanijskoj kosi, a koliko kvadrat odmah u = upotrebi u=20 skoro najelitnijim gradskim lokacijama? Bar nekoliko puta skuplje! = Građevinski=20 kvadrat košta na Bežanijskoj kosi maksimum 500 evra, dok se u = centralnim zonama=20 grada za isti kvadrat trguje i do 4.000 evra!<BR>Posebna je priča = stavka ugovora=20 u kojem se strancima oslobađa vojna zgrada u roku od 15 dana (!), = dok im je=20 ugovorena obaveza da dovrše započetu gradnju od strane vojske = tek 1. mart 2006.=20 godine! Šta je s vremenskom razlikom od godinu i više dana za = koju će američka=20 firma koristiti vojnu zgradu, a da nije okončala posao = gradnje?<BR>Ugovor je=20 sačinjen, po svemu sudeći, daleko od očiju i ušiju = javnosti i, kako nezvanično=20 saznajemo, `sačinila ga je Milana Rakić, koja je kasnije dala = saglasnost kao=20 vojni pravobranilac`! Da bi kasnije usledio `ministrov revanš za = učinjenu=20 uslugu`, pa je na Savetu ministara izabrana za Generalnog sekretara! U = ovu aferu=20 `uvezuje se i Davinićev pomoćnik, general Kosovac, koji je u = ministarstvu=20 zadužen za ljudske resurse`, inače član Atlantskog = saveta. Ali, i Branko=20 Crnogorac, dugogodišnji kućni prijatelj ministra = Davinića, dok je potpisnik=20 ugovora, Amerikanac Geri Klir, koji odlično govori srpski jezik - = dugogodišnji=20 bliski prijatelj predsednika Borisa Tadića...<BR>Nezvanično, = spominje se da iza=20 celokupnog posla na štetu naše države stoji poznati = lobista Majkl=20 Đorđević.<BR>Kad je pukla bruka i kad su ovom temom = površno počeli da se bave=20 pojedini mediji, prvi je reagovao ministar finansija u Vladi Srbije = Mlađan=20 Dinkić, tražeći da se isti aranžman odmah stopira i = da istovremeno Fond za=20 reformu sistema odbrane VJ otvori račun u NBS, što je i = predviđeno po Povelji!=20 Oni to odbijaju i dok traje javna polemika sukobljenih strana, ugovor o = ovom=20 poslu, prema tvrdnjama pojedinaca lično zainteresovanih za ovaj = slučaj -=20 volšebno nestaje iz predmeta, čime su se otvorile = mogućnosti novih špekulacija=20 pa i teza da i nije uopšte potpisan! Nacional ga zato javno = prilaže kao dokaz=20 svima, posebno ministru Daviniću da ipak postoji i to s njegovim = ličnim=20 potpisom?!<BR>Ministar Dinkić, shvatajući o čemu se radi, = a dobro znajući čiji=20 je kadar ministar vojni - obavlja pod hitno konsultacije s = potpredsednikom Vlade=20 Srbije Miroljubom Labusom posle čega zakazuju sednicu = Predsedništva G17 za iduću=20 nedelju! Dinkić ostaje pri svom ultimativnom zahtevu za hitnom = smenom=20 Davinića... D. J. <BR><BR>Odbio zakup Ujedinjenim = nacijama!<BR>Ministar Davinić=20 je imao zahtev od UN da uzmu u zakup pomenute vojne zgrade i da na ime = zakupa=20 Vojska dobija 100.000 evra! Ali je to glatko odbio! Zbog čega? = <BR><BR>Revizori=20 kao sudije<BR>Po slovu ugovora, ugovorene strane su se saglasile da za = procenu=20 fizičke realizacije objekata uzmu međunarodnu revizorsku = kuću `BDO BC EXCEL`.=20 Zanimljivo je da se i ministar vojni saglasio da je njihova procena = konačna,=20 tako da niko posle njihovog nalaza nema prava žalbe niti ikakve = revizije? A, ova=20 kuća je u svetu poznata po čuvenoj aferi FIFA u = nameštanju fudbalskih=20 rezultata?! Tek toliko i o ovim detaljima famoznog ugovora... = <BR><BR>Ćar i u=20 gradnji zgrada vojsci<BR>Na Bežanijskoj kosi započeta je = već gradnja vojnih=20 stambeno-poslovnih objekata do prvog sprata! Iz ugovora se vidi da su = dobijene=20 sve potrebne saglasnosti opštine Novi Beograd, što znači = da je već podosta=20 državnih para uloženo. Sada se pojavljuje strana firma koja je = trebala da=20 nastavi posao i da za znatno manje od predviđenih para dovrši = zgrade. 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Modified files: xc/config/imake/: imakemdep.h xc/extras/freetype2/src/lzw/: ftlzw.c zopen.c xc/programs/Xserver/hw/tinyx/vesa/: vm86.c Revision Changes Path 3.79 +4 -1 xc/config/imake/imakemdep.h 1.2 +3 -0 xc/extras/freetype2/src/lzw/ftlzw.c 1.2 +3 -0 xc/extras/freetype2/src/lzw/zopen.c 1.3 +4 -1 xc/programs/Xserver/hw/tinyx/vesa/vm86.c _______________________________________________ Cvs-commit mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-commit From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:17:18 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:17:18 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:18 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx128.postini.com ([64.18.0.42] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3vy-0007N6-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:18 -0800 Received: from source ([66.35.250.206]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx128.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:20:02 PST Received: from projects.sourceforge.net (sc8-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net [10.3.1.7]) by sc8-sf-uberspam1.sourceforge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BB91D08BE; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sc8-sf-mx2-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.12] helo=sc8-sf-mx2.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cf3y5-0004cC-6y for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:19:29 -0800 Received: from web52707.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.158]) by sc8-sf-mx2.sourceforge.net with smtp (Exim 4.41) id 1Cf3y3-0004kd-4S for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:19:28 -0800 Received: (qmail 69197 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Dec 2004 22:19:18 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [24.68.122.195] by web52707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:19:18 EST From: Michael Zacharias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Difficulty running down database To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: <hardhats-members.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=hardhats-members> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:19:18 -0500 (EST) X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0000) gt3 gt2 GT1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=ham version=2.64 Kevin In your script you have: <...> >export gtm_vista=$HOME/OpenVista_UserData >export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld <...> This says that the .gld file is in a different directory than what you described below. Just change the gtmgbldir line to be: export gtmgbldir="/usr/local/OpenVista/g/mumps.gld or wherever the .gld file resides... Michael --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used the standard script to set up (I believe). > This resulted in the following directory structure: > > /usr/local/gtm -- gtm directory > /usr/local/OpenVistA -- VistA routines etc. > and > /home/kdt0p/OpenVista_UserData -- user specific > routines etc. > > With this setup, the mumps.dat file gets saved in: > /home/kdt0p/OpenVista_UserData/g/mumps.dat > while mumps.gld ends up in: > /usr/local/OpenVistA/g/mumps.gld > > (It seems strange to me to have the .gld and the .dat > in different directory trees, but I'm not sure if it > should be changed or not--or what settings need to be > changed if I move the file) > > And when I type in: > rundown -reg "*" > it tells me: > > sh rundown > Running down database... > %GTM-E-ZGBLDIRACC, Cannot access global directory > /home/kdt0p/OpenVista_UserData/g/mumps.gld. Retaining > . > %SYSTEM-E-ENO2, No such file or directory > > And the kdt<zero>p is correct as spelled. > > Still not able to rundown. Any thoughts? > > Thanks > Kevin > > > > --- "K.S. Bhaskar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's excellent advice from someone who clearly > > understands GT.M and > > appreciates what a GT.M global directory can do for > > him! An added bonus > > for lazy people like me who never learned to touch > > type is that mupip > > rundown -reg "*" takes less keystrokes. > > > > -- Bhaskar > > > > On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 16:17, Michael Zacharias > > wrote: > > > after defining your .gld to the environment, why > > not just change: > > > > > > /usr/local/gtm/mupip rundown -file <filename> > > > > > > to > > > > > > /usr/local/gtm/mupip rundown -reg "*" > > > > > > This will rundown all the database regions defined > > in the .gld file. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > *************************************************************************** > > This electronic mail transmission contains > > confidential and/or privileged information intended > > only for the person(s) named. > > Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by > > another person is strictly prohibited. > > > *************************************************************************** > > > > NOTE: Ce courriel est destine exclusivement au(x) > > destinataire(s) mentionne(s) ci-dessus et peut > > contenir de l'information privilegiee, > > confidentielle et/ou dispensee de divulgation aux > > termes des lois applicables. 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Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:17:22 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:17:22 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:22 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx118.postini.com ([64.18.0.32] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3w2-0007Nf-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:22 -0800 Received: from source ([66.35.250.206]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx118.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:20:06 PST Received: from projects.sourceforge.net (sc8-sf-list2-b.sourceforge.net [10.3.1.8]) by sc8-sf-uberspam1.sourceforge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5931D0669; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sc8-sf-mx2-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.12] helo=sc8-sf-mx2.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cf3xw-0008E1-Ll for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:19:20 -0800 Received: from [200.97.92.58] (helo=bbs.arcadian.com.br) by sc8-sf-mx2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1Cf3xr-0004k1-Em for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:19:20 -0800 Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Andromda-devel] AndroMDA/JIRA Commented: (BPM-125) Invalid validation messages ( Precedence: bulk Priority: non-urgent X-Priority: 4 (Low) X-MSMail-Priority: Low To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-FC-AutoForward-By: "Walter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mour=E3o?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-FC-AutoForward-By: "Walter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mour=E3o?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Martin West (JIRA)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Unknown-8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/andromda-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Developers of AndroMDA meet here. <andromda-devel.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/andromda-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=andromda-devel> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:18:17 -0300 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0000) gt3 gt2 GT1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_MIMEOLE, PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 [ http://team.andromda.org:8080/jira/browse/BPM-125?page=comments#action_10525 ] Martin West commented on BPM-125: --------------------------------- ok, Thanks What about all the stack traces? >>> Invalid validation messages ( allegedly) An action state needs exactly >>one outgoing transition that is not an exception-transition. >>> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Key: BPM-125 >>> URL: http://team.andromda.org:8080/jira/browse/BPM-125 >>> Project: Bpm4Struts Cartridge >>> Type: Bug >>> Reporter: Martin West >>> Assignee: Wouter Zoons >>> Attachments: mdl.zip >>> >>> >>> Zillions of stack trace preceeding this .... >>> cadeLogicImpl.java:62) >>> at >>org.andromda.metafacades.uml14.TransitionFacadeLogic.isEnteringDecisionPoint(TransitionFacadeLogic.java:103) >>> at >>org.andromda.cartridges.bpm4struts.metafacades.StrutsForwardLogic.isEnteringDecisionPoint(StrutsForwardLogic.java:752) >>> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) >>> at >>sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) >>> at >>sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) >>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324) >>> at >>org.andromda.translation.validation.OCLIntrospector.getProperty(OCLIntrospector.java:147) >>> at >>org.andromda.translation.validation.OCLIntrospector.getNestedProperty(OCLIntrospector.java:99) >>> at >>org.andromda.translation.validation.OCLIntrospector.invoke(OCLIntrospector.java:43) >>> ... 81 more >>> ERROR [AndroMDA:VALIDATION:ERROR] 1) >>org.andromda.cartridges.bpm4struts.metafacades.StrutsActionState[Check >>Login]:An action state needs exactly one outgoing transition that is not >>an exception-transition. >>> ERROR [AndroMDA:VALIDATION:ERROR] 2) >>org.andromda.cartridges.bpm4struts.metafacades.StrutsActionState[Start >>Login]:An action state needs exactly one outgoing transition that is not >>an exception-transition. >>> ERROR [AndroMDA:VALIDATION:ERROR] 3) >>org.andromda.cartridges.bpm4struts.metafacades.StrutsActionState[undefined]:An >>action state needs exactly one outgoing transition that is not an >>exception-transition. >>> ERROR [AndroMDA:VALIDATION:ERROR] 4) >>org.andromda.cartridges.bpm4struts.metafacades.StrutsForward[undefined]:If >>a transition exits from a decision point it needs a guard. >>> INFO [AndroMDA] completed model processing, TIME --> 48.933[s] - 4 >>VALIDATION ERROR(S) >> -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://team.andromda.org:8080/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. 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Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Andromda-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/andromda-devel From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:17:19 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:17:19 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:19 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx32.postini.com ([64.18.0.187] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3vz-0007NO-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:19 -0800 Received: from source ([129.132.58.23]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx32.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:20:02 EST Received: from hypatia.math.ethz.ch (hypatia [129.132.58.23]) by hypatia.math.ethz.ch (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBGMGu3c031691; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:19:46 +0100 Received: from hertz.gene.com (fw-open-virt.gene.com [192.12.78.250]) by hypatia.math.ethz.ch (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBGLvOZR026596 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:57:26 +0100 Received: from GUNTERBLT (dhcp164-33.gene.com [128.137.164.33]) by hertz.gene.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id iBGLvKTQ009218; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:57:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Berton Gunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Jun Ding'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [R] counting numbers without replicates in a vector Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:57:20 -0800 Organization: Genentech Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Thread-Index: AcTjuH8nOHA+idzZQj2qyaSfXBE+wQAAKs9A In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received-SPF: none (hypatia: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not designate permitted sender hosts) Received-SPF: pass (hypatia: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] designates 192.12.78.250 as permitted sender) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at stat.math.ethz.ch Cc: X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Main R Mailing List: Primary help" <r-help.stat.math.ethz.ch> List-Unsubscribe: <https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:68.80468/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 ?duplicated and ?unique might be of interest to you ... But I think an easier way is: z<-table(a) length(z)-sum(z>1) This gives you the count. names(z)[z==1] gives you the actual values (The quotes can be removed by explicitly calling print with argument quote=FALSE) -- Bert Gunter Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics South San Francisco, CA "The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning process." - George E. P. Box > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jun Ding > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 1:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [R] counting numbers without replicates in a vector > > Hi, > I am just wondering if there is an easy way to count > in a numeric vector how many numbers don't have > replicates. > For example, > a=c(1,1,2,2,3,4,5), how can I know there are three > numbers (3, 4 and 5) without replicates? > > Thank you! > > Jun > > > ===== > > ______________________________________________ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide! > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > ______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:17:25 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:17:25 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:25 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.0.87] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3w5-0007No-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:25 -0800 Received: from source ([194.109.24.27]) by exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:20:08 PST Received: from bag.python.org (bag.python.org [194.109.207.14]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBGLgXan063366; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:42:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE1B1E400A; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:42:31 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FF41E4008 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:42:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from bag (HELO bag.python.org) (127.0.0.1) by bag.python.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 2004 22:42:29 +0100 Received: from mail.cnsp.com (mail.cnsp.com [67.129.68.17]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:42:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cnsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE9F1C261E; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:42:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.cnsp.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21026-15; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:42:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [67.129.68.13] (ds3-67-129-68-13.cnsp.net [67.129.68.13]) by mail.cnsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4C61C101B; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:42:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:42:30 -0700 From: Jason Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mdcooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Tutor] least squares References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion for learning programming with Python <tutor.python.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 well, not sure if there is a module with the function you are looking for, but... #sloppy as hell method: #... if str(my_returned_value).find("-") != -1: return my_returned_value #or whatever you want to do with it #... #slightly less sloppy as hell method: if my_returned_value < 0: return my_returned_value mdcooper wrote: >Hi there, > >I am trying to run a least squares program (written by Konrad Hinsen) but I >would like to only have positive values returned. Can anyone help is altering >the code to do this? > >Thanks, > >matthew > > >_______________________________________________ >Tutor maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor > > > _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:17:33 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:17:33 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:33 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx126.postini.com ([64.18.0.40] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3wD-0007OL-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:33 -0800 Received: from source ([209.237.227.199]) by exprod5mx126.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:20:18 PST Received: (qmail 25710 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2004 22:20:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: "Struts Users Mailing List" <user.struts.apache.org> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 25678 invoked by uid 99); 16 Dec 2004 22:20:09 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from claven.sssc.com (HELO SSSC-MAIL-2.internal.sssc.com) (12.34.77.106) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:54 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: String with digits to Long, verse String w/ digits and commas to Long Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:17:01 -0700 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: String with digits to Long, verse String w/ digits and commas to Long Thread-Index: AcTjvCVG7xWRVQlLT4SfhSd+rcSH9gAAIKbg From: "Jim Barrows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=ham version=2.64 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 3:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: String with digits to Long, verse String w/ digits and commas > to Long >=20 >=20 > I have a form field that I want to be a number in the DB, but=20 > the user can add digits, or digits with commas into. > So 1000 is the same at 1,000 on the ui. >=20 > My question is, will struts convert "1,000" to 1000L just as=20 > it will convert "1000" to 1000L? Struts won't. NumberFormat will. Take the field as a String and then = parse it with either Numberformat or DecimalFormat into long. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:17:32 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:17:32 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:32 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx121.postini.com ([64.18.0.35] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3wC-0007O3-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:32 -0800 Received: from source ([212.13.210.26]) by exprod5mx121.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:20:13 EST Received: (qmail 10940 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2004 22:20:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cloudburst.preshweb.co.uk) (80.68.91.76) by beseeingyou.bytemark.co.uk with SMTP; 16 Dec 2004 22:20:12 -0000 Received: from cloudburst.preshweb.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cloudburst.preshweb.co.uk (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBGMKBEm023730; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:20:12 GMT Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.74]) by cloudburst.preshweb.co.uk (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id iBGMK0El023726 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:20:00 GMT Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: (qmail 13760 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2004 22:19:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (12.174.238.3) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 16 Dec 2004 22:19:58 -0000 From: "Christina Lannen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'wdvltalk-social new mailing list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [wdvltalk-social] the revenge of the rats Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:19:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTjuoxF1Oz5lIvGQSyOSyTcWYIWxQAAnRUA X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: wdvltalk-social new mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: wdvltalk-social new mailing list <wdvltalk-social.wdvltalk-social.org.uk> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.wdvltalk-social.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wdvltalk-social>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://cloudburst.preshweb.co.uk/pipermail/wdvltalk-social> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://www.wdvltalk-social.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wdvltalk-social>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.2 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.64 Wait it's summer time here also. No wait!!! It's summer year round (80F+). Hehehehehehe Now for those lister's experiencing cold weather and snow. Sorry. I know SHUT UP!!! Chris >> One of the advantages of living just west of the International Date line.........and the southern hemisphere, >summertime..! _______________________________________________ wdvltalk-social mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wdvltalk-social.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wdvltalk-social Contact list owner with any questions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note - this came through the NEW listserver (cloudburst). From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:17:37 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:17:37 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:37 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx127.postini.com ([64.18.0.41] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3wH-0007OY-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:37 -0800 Received: from source ([209.237.227.199]) by exprod5mx127.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:20:22 EST Received: (qmail 12117 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2004 22:13:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: "Struts Users Mailing List" <user.struts.apache.org> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 12102 invoked by uid 99); 16 Dec 2004 22:13:41 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO,NO_REAL_NAME X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from crater.norwest.com (HELO crater.norwest.com) (198.74.20.154) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:11:54 -0800 Received: from pyrenees.wellsfargo.com (pyrenees.wellsfargo.com [10.88.28.178]) by crater.norwest.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id iBGLpc0G028593 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:51:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from pyrenees.wellsfargo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pyrenees.wellsfargo.com (Switch-3.1.5/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id iBGMB9D3002798 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:11:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from MSGSPSMNMSP03.ent.wfb.bank.corp (msgspsmnmsp03.wellsfargo.com [10.88.230.247]) by pyrenees.wellsfargo.com (Switch-3.1.5/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id iBGMB9h2002795 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:11:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from MSGSWBMNMSP19.ent.wfb.bank.corp ([10.88.230.217]) by MSGSPSMNMSP03.ent.wfb.bank.corp with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:11:09 -0600 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6556.0 Subject: String with digits to Long, verse String w/ digits and commas to Long Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:11:09 -0600 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: String with digits to Long, verse String w/ digits and commas to Long Thread-Index: AcTjvCVG7xWRVQlLT4SfhSd+rcSH9g== From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2004 22:11:09.0470 (UTC) FILETIME=[257073E0:01C4E3BC] X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=no version=2.64 I have a form field that I want to be a number in the DB, but the user = can add digits, or digits with commas into. So 1000 is the same at 1,000 on the ui. My question is, will struts convert "1,000" to 1000L just as it will = convert "1000" to 1000L? -------------------- Mick Knutson Wells Fargo Business Direct Information Systems (415) 222-1020 "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If = you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the = addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on = this message or any information herein. If you have received this = message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail = and delete this message. 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So 1000 is the same at 1,000 on the ui. My question is, will struts convert "1,000" to 1000L just as it will = convert "1000" to 1000L? -------------------- Mick Knutson Wells Fargo Business Direct Information Systems (415) 222-1020 "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If = you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the = addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on = this message or any information herein. If you have received this = message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail = and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:17:59 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:17:59 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:59 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx117.postini.com ([64.18.0.89] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3wd-0007R6-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:17:59 -0800 Received: from source ([207.173.200.128]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx117.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:20:43 PST Received: from postgresql.org (svr1.postgresql.org [200.46.204.71]) by hosting.commandprompt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBGMF83i028729; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:15:36 -0800 X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A433CB2CB; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:13:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24441-04; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:13:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us (sss.pgh.pa.us [66.207.139.130]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3859A3CB284; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:13:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sss2.sss.pgh.pa.us ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBGMDEBv001870; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:13:15 -0500 (EST) To: Adi Alurkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PERFORM] UNION ALL vs INHERITANCE In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Comments: In-reply-to Adi Alurkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> message dated "Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:06:46 -0800" Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:13:14 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Mailing-List: pgsql-performance Precedence: bulk Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Adi Alurkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why does the append resulting from a inheritance take longer than one > resulting from UNION ALL? The index scan is where the time difference is: > -> Index Scan using fftiallbgrgfid_1102715649 on > f_f_all_base (cost=0.00..3.52 rows=1 width=51) (actual > time=3.871..244.356 rows=28 loops=1) > Index Cond: (group_id = 78745) > Filter: (all_tidx @@ '\'mmcach\''::tsquery) > -> Index Scan using fftiallbgrgfid_1102715649 on > f_f_all_base (cost=0.00..3.52 rows=1 width=51) (actual > time=3.714..79.996 rows=28 loops=1) > Index Cond: (group_id = 78745) > Filter: (all_tidx @@ '\'mmcach\''::tsquery) One would have to suppose this is a caching effect, ie, the data is already in RAM on the second try and doesn't have to be read from disk again. regards, tom lane ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:18:08 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:18:08 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:08 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx123.postini.com ([64.18.0.37] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3wm-0007RV-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:08 -0800 Received: from source ([63.251.223.186]) by exprod5mx123.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:20:52 PST Received: (qmail 10355 invoked by uid 514); 16 Dec 2004 22:20:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 10347 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2004 22:20:51 -0000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Check-By: la.mx.develooper.com Received-SPF: neutral (x1.develooper.com: local policy) Subject: PASS Text-FormBuilder-0.07 i686-linux-thread-multi 2.6.8.1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Reported-Via: Test::Reporter 1.20, via CPANPLUS 0.048 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:20:39 +0200 (IST) X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 This distribution has been tested as part of the cpan-testers effort to test as many new uploads to CPAN as possible. See http://testers.cpan.org/ Please cc any replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to keep other test volunteers informed and to prevent any duplicate effort. -- Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 9 subversion 2 patch 23656) configuration: Platform: osname=linux, osvers=2.6.8.1, archname=i686-linux-thread-multi uname='linux pasta 2.6.8.1 #4 sat aug 21 18:43:24 idt 2004 i686 amd athlon(tm) xp 2400+ authenticamd gnulinux ' config_args='-des -Dprefix=/home/nothingmuch/perlsmoke/build/devel-thread -Dusedevel -Uversiononly -Dusethreads [EMAIL PROTECTED]' hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define usethreads=define useithreads=define usemultiplicity=define useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef Compiler: cc='cc', ccflags ='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DTHREADS_HAVE_PIDS -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64', optimize='-O2', cppflags='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DTHREADS_HAVE_PIDS -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' ccversion='', gccversion='3.3.4 20040623 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.4-r1, ssp-3.3.2-2, pie-8.7.6)', gccosandvers='' intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=1234 d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', lseeksize=8 alignbytes=4, prototype=define Linker and Libraries: ld='cc', ldflags =' -L/usr/local/lib' libpth=/usr/local/lib /lib /usr/lib libs=-lnsl -lndbm -lgdbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lc perllibs=-lnsl -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lc libc=/lib/libc-2.3.3.so, so=so, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a gnulibc_version='2.3.3' Dynamic Linking: dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags='-Wl,-E' cccdlflags='-fpic', lddlflags='-shared -L/usr/local/lib' From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:18:08 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:18:08 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:08 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx123.postini.com ([64.18.0.37] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3wm-0007RZ-00 for <archive@jab.org>; 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Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:19:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:23:35 -0500 From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041025) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bozhidar Batsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The newest version of the nvnet port(nvnet-src-20040813.tar.gz) won't build on FreeBSD 5.3R X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Bozhidar Batsov wrote: >Here is the output from the the build: >===> Building for nvnet-1.0.0274 >"Makefile", line 7: Malformed conditional (${OSTYPE} == "FreeBSD") >"Makefile", line 7: Need an operator >"Makefile", line 13: if-less endif >"Makefile", line 13: Need an operator >make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue >*** Error code 1 > >I guess I have to edit the makefile, but I don't what changes it requires. Can >someone help me? >_______________________________________________ >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > I just upgraded mine and all is well, I would say you need to delete what you have and cvsup again. _______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" From jeff Thu Dec 16 22:18:16 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 16 14:18:16 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@mail-archive.com Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:16 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx116.postini.com ([64.18.0.88] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cf3wu-0007Rx-00 for <archive@mail-archive.com>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:18:16 -0800 Received: from source ([209.239.33.40]) by exprod5mx116.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:20:59 PST Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by host24.websitesource.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) id iBGKHDta004544 for archive@mail-archive.com; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:17:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:14:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: host24.websitesource.com: dbrewer set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: PESO:peacocks eye Pentax Macro lens 50mm Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 21:14:43 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/135232 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Hi Shel The purple tint must come from a little flash underexposure or the Canon scanner 9900f during scan. The scanner needs a random recalibration when using the supplied twain modul for unknown reason, otherwise I get an ugly red and blue tint. With Vuescan it's a lot better but Vuescan does not recognise the negative size automatically for batch processing. On the other side, peacock feathers do change the colour from green to blue and others if you turn them in the light. Very fascinating.... I'm quite happy with the sharpness, should I expect a lot more from that lens? I'm not used to macro photography yet, that was one of the first shots, maybe I nedd to focus better :-) thanks for commenting Markus RE: PESO:peacocks eye Pentax Macro lens 50mm Hi Markus, The pic doesn't look particularly sharp, colors look a little washed out, and what's with all the purple fringing? Shel > I got a nearly new Pentax A50mm 2.8 macro lens from an internet > auction and this PESO is one of the first shots I made with it. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2963802 >
