Very true. And very well said. As far as I'm concerned, autofocus is largely 
reserved for snapshots at a social event or when I'm feeling lazy and playing. 
Manual focus is almost always a better choice.
Paul


> Hi Bruce,
> 
> Quite some time back in a discussion here about autofocus a question was
> posed concerning the specificity of the area that the camera will focus on,
> specifically the eye and a very precise part of the eye.  Comments from
> some of the AF devotees were that, while the camera probably couldn't focus
> on the pupil, it would focus well enough for all practical purposes - and
> that there would be no problem as long as the lens was stopped down enough
> to give adequate DOF.  Peter's shot clearly shows that AF may not work well
> enough in such circumstances, especially if the photog wants to minimize
> DOF.
> 
> If there were a pair of glasses in front of those charming, doe-like eyes
> where would the camera focus?  On the eyes or on the lenses of the glasses?
> Stopping down to let the DOF handle the focusing inaccuracy gives two
> problems.  First, it reduces the creative elements that the photographer
> has to work with , namely the soft focus or OOF areas, and, secondly, any
> minor focusing error is greatly magnified when the print is made larger,
> so, in some instances, AF could well limit creativity and the viability of
> making a large print.
> 
> Shel 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Shel Belinkoff <[email protected]>
> > Date: 1/12/2005 4:45:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: PESO--The Girl Living in the Accountants Spare Room
> >
> > This is exactly what I mean about AF. The sensor area may be larger
> > than the target you want in focus.  This means that it will pick
> > within the area.  That doesn't make the autofocus wrong, just the
> > application of it.  Not much different really than using a reflective
> > meter poorly with snow or coal.
> >
> > I still don't get why so many people use AF when there is no benefit.
> > This image is what many of my niece's (pro photog using D1X AF) pictures
> look like.  The focus
> > isn't bad, but it's not great either.  If you can't see to focus,
> > either get a camera that you can see out of, or get your eyes
> > corrected enough to see.
> >
> > -- 
> > Best regards,
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> > Wednesday, January 12, 2005, 4:36:36 PM, you wrote:
> >
> > SB> Hi Peter, Frank ...
> >
> > SB> I'd not noticed the softness in the eyes as the dark strip grabbed my
> > SB> attention, but you're right Frank ... the eyes are a bit of a problem
> here.
> > SB> Just a thought - and it'll work - sharpen each eye individually until
> > SB> they're both equally sharp to a satisfactory degree.  I played with
> it a
> > SB> bit in PS, gave it a little crop, and voila - the true genius of the
> > SB> portrait becomes perfectly obvious.
> >
> > SB> Lose the autofocus, Peter ... not needed at all on such a subject,
> and that
> > SB> 43mm focuses manually quite nicely.
> >
> > SB> Shel 
> >
> >
> > >> [Original Message]
> > >> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:13:33 -0500, Peter J. Alling
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >> > http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_tglitasr.html
> > >> > 
> > >> > In case anyone cares:
> > >> > 
> > >> > Pentax *ist-D 1/30 sec (ISO -- 400)
> > >> > SMC Pentax FA 43ltd f1.9 @ f2.8
> > >> > Autofocus (Autofocus sucks no matter how good the camera IMHO).
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> I gotta agree with Shel;  that dark stripe down the right side is a
> > >> needless distraction.  I was going to wonder aloud (or however one
> > >> wonders on a keyboard) if maybe you focused on the wrong eye - her
> > >> left eye (the one on the right of the frame) seems just a tad soft,
> > >> but I think that's the one which should be sharpest (since it's
> > >> closest to the camera, no?).  Then, I noticed that you autofocused, so
> > >> that's (likely) that.
> > >>
> > >> Well, here I am, starting off with negative stuff, when really, it's a
> > >> lovely portrait.  I like that she looks very relaxed and comfortable.
> > >> There's something about the placement of her hand on the vertical
> > >> thing (is it a frame of some sort?) that I like - it seems rather
> > >> "unposed" and natural looking.
> > >>
> > >> Overall a very nice photo.  Can't do anything about the softness, but
> > >> you can crop.  I think it would be a better photo if you did.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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