Quoting Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: (and snipping for 
manageable length of reply)

> This isn't an argument, it's a discussion. 

Absolutely, just making sure we agreed on that.


> The LX is a fine camera, but
> it's just not my preferred camera for the reasons mentioned here and in
> other posts.  The final straw came in 2002 when I snapped a pic of a group
> of people listening to a speech outside, in a public area.  The crowd was
> fairly large, there was some ambient noise (cars and buses going by,
> people
> talking, some wind, that sort of thing).  I made one quick shot from the
> back of the crowd and a moment or two later someone came up to me and
> asked
> that I not take pictures as the camera noise was disturbing.  Outside in a
> crowd!!!!!


I wonder if that person would've "heard" the camera had he or she not also 
*seen* it. I can hear a Leica M shutter from across a room -- if I know it's 
there and I'm listening for it! 
I mean, I agree that the LX is louder than some other cameras (Pentax Ms, 
Leica Ms, Pentax ZXs and anything with a properly-functioning leaf-shutter) 
but in the situation you describe, it seems to me there was more going on. 
Or, if the person was standing very close to you.
That said, the LX has never been my first choice for photographing in a 
church service. "Right tool for the job" and all that.

 
> As for fitting in a shirt pocket, I did say a LARGE pocket.  I have some
> shirts of that sort, although most don't have pockets large enough for any
> camera I own with the exception of the little Sony digicam, should the
> lens
> hood be removed and the lens be retracted.


Well that was mostly me pointing out for humourous effect that as a fairly 
typical female person, I'd likely not have pockets that big. Though knowing 
that a big man well might.

Now, my Optio 550 -- THAT's a pocketable camera. Silent, too. Unobtrusive, 
definitely. And, now that I come to think of it, with an uncluttered 
viewfinder!

ERNR

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