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Don > -----Original Message----- > From: arie07 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:40 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: remove > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:15 PM > Subject: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #70 > > > ------------------------------ > > Content-Type: text/plain > > pentax-discuss-d Digest Volume 05 : Issue 70 > > Today's Topics: > RE: Pentax 1,000mm F8 K lens [ "J. C. O'Connell" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: moving on - with the *istDS [ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: PESO: This might bring a smile [ Mat Maessen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: *ist ds review [ Billy Abbott > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: Whil [ Billy Abbott > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: *istD storage [ DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: Whil [ Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > RE: flash for *ist D [ "Jens Bladt" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: *istD storage [ Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: *ist ds review [ Luigi de Guzman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: OT-Coffee Theory [ "Bob Blakely" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > RE: flash for *ist D [ "Jens Bladt" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: *istD storage [ Tim Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: moving on - with the *istDS [ Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: Finally - enabled [ "Shel Belinkoff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > AW: flash for *ist D [ "Michael Heim" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > AW: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: Whil [ "Michael Heim" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: OT-Coffee Theory [ Keith Whaley > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > RE: The Great Gray Owl invasion [ Andre Langevin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:49:26 -0500 > From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > Subject: RE: Pentax 1,000mm F8 K lens > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > fwiw, I bought one on ebay for about $700 three years ago, > then I got a M42 Tak version (no smc) about a year later for about $550, > and then I sold > the SMC K version for about $900. > > I prefer the M42 version as it's a manual lens anyway, fits more > cameras, and the lack of SMC > doesn't really mean much on a 5 element lens. What I could have done > in hindsight was kept the SMC version and swapped the rear mounts > so I would have had a frankenlens, SMC PENTAX, with M42 mount. > Never occurred to me until now.... > > JCO > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andre Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:20 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Pentax 1,000mm F8 K lens > > > >On Jan 19, 2005, at 1:58 AM, Cotty wrote: > > > >>I'm sure Peter in Sunny Brighton used to have one for sale. He might > >>even still have it. > > > >Stop it, you're making me feel guilty :) > > > >It was me who pointed out a very large Pentax-labelled trunk case > >while waiting in line for Photographica to open for dealers. > > > >I don't see it on his website: perhaps he kept it for shooting, > >ummm, wildlife on Brighton beach. > > > >Cheers, > > > >- Dave > > > >http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ > > I am pretty sure Peter sold it on eBay some time after he offered it > twice on the PDML. Not sure how much it sold, but quite less than a > grand if I remember well. > > Andre > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:40:02 -0500 (EST) > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: moving on - with the *istDS > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Rob Studdert mused: > > > > On 19 Jan 2005 at 12:40, Michael Heim wrote: > > > > > So in some situations the *istD seems to have problems with older > lences, > > > not optimised for digital cameras. > > > > Maybe you should check that your lens mounts are clean, I've had no > problems > > with older lenses and metering on the *ist D. > > I wouldn't expect a dirty lens mount to cause this kind of problem; > I'd be much more inclined to suspect a sticky aperture diaphragm > on the lens, so it doesn't stop down fast enough. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:48:36 -0500 > From: Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: PESO: This might bring a smile > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Kind of scary that both animals are members of the same genus and > species, and yet so vastly different. > > Great shot. > > -Mat > > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:11:41 +0000, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > William Robb wrote: > > > Or not. > > > We had a couple of friends over last night. > > > They brought one of their dogs. > > > Here is Rollei trying to figure out just exactly what it is. > > > > > > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/P0246small.html > > > > A bijou snackette? > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:56:37 +0000 > From: Billy Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: *ist ds review > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:13:38 +0000 (GMT), Kostas Kavoussanakis > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you put it in M mode and flick the AE-L button to get the same > > "Hyper-manual" mode as in the -D. You may also need to set a function > > to enable this. > > > > More from the owners :-) > > As Kostas said, you set a custom function to allow the shutter to be > released on older lenses, put the camera in manual mode, stop down as > you would normally and then hit the AE-L button (I think the DoF > preview works as well) to stop down momentarily and meter. It then > sets the shutter speed to the correct speed for the exposure it > determines. > > So, afaik the same as the *ist-D, apart from the colour of the button. > You also don't need any new firmware - the standard DS firmware does > this out of the box. > > I think the metering modes are also restricted to centre and spot, but > that seems to be a fairly standard restriction as far as I have seen > so far. > > billy > -- > Billy Abbott > Photography - http://www.cowfish.org.uk/paw/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:00:10 +0000 > From: Billy Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:44:23 -0500, Graywolf > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Make no mistake substances used ceremonially in high concentrations are > not > > beverages they are magical drugs. > > Sounds like coffee in my office...and we do refer to it as a magical drug. > > And even when we don't make it ourselves it's served to us with great > reverence on a small raised podium at the end of an "altar" by someone > in an aproned uniform...a link to masonic ritual maybe? > > :) > > billy > > -- > Billy Abbott > Photography - http://www.cowfish.org.uk/paw/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:03:22 +0100 > From: DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: *istD storage > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > I have: > 1GB Lexmark 80x with WA > 1GB Sandisk Extreme > 1GB Sandisk Ultra II > > The two first have approximately the same speed (9s per RAW image), > while the Ultra II is slightly slower. > > DagT > > Pĺ 19. jan. 2005 kl. 18.38 skrev Ken Hauck: > > > I remember seeing *istD benchmarks of compact flash > > card read performance a while back but I didn't save > > the reference. I'm thinking of getting either a > > Lexmark 80x card with Write Acceleration or a SanDisk > > Ultra or Extreme. I would like suggestions on what > > will give the best performance. I'm using a SanDisk > > standard 1GB card now and tired of waiting for the > > buffer to flush after a several shots in quick > > succession. > > > > Thanks in Advance! > > Ken > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! > > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:15:46 +0000 > From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi, > > > On the other hand, Coca-Cola *is* intended to be consumed as a beverage. > > BTW, I found the Ethiopian coffee article very interesting. Thanks to > whoever > > (Bob W?) shared it. > > Wonder if devout Rastafarians find party-use of marijuana offensive? > > I don't think so. > > Coffee doesn't have any religious significance with Ethiopians, so > it's not like ganja for rastas, and disrespecting is not, as someone > supposed, like pissing in a mosque. > > Perhaps the nearest equivalent to their ceremony might be something > like passing the port round after a formal dinner, or enjoying single > malts, or vintage wine with friends, then finding out that people swig > it from paper cups in brown bags while walking to work in the morning. > > It's difficult to find a modern European equivalent because we have all > but dispensed with that level of formality and ritual on a daily basis. > > -- > Cheers, > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:49:29 +0100 > From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > Subject: RE: flash for *ist D > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Intersting problem. > I just briefly tested 4 TTL-flashes on the *ist D at 200-400-800 ASA (same > speed and F-stop) : > AF500FTZ > Metz 32 CT3 > Metz 32 Z-2 > Pentax AF280T > > The two first gave me the same problem as described by Micahael; brighter > image, when the ISO setting is turned up. > The two next flashes didn't. They gave me correct exposure, regardless of > the ISO setting at all three settings. > > Other than that, I think the AF 500 FTZ works quite well with the *ist D. > Red AF assist light and all. > > That's odd, isn't it? > Jens Bladt > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 19. januar 2005 16:24 > Til: pdml > Emne: Re: flash for *ist D > > > Michael, TTL flashes do not seem to work consistently well with digital > SLRs. Some people get good results some of the time, at some ISO > settings but not others, with some exposure compensation, etc. The > reason is that TTL measures light off the film plane. Of course, a dslr > does not have a film plane, so light has to be measured off the sensor. > The sensor does not have the same reflectivity as film, so exposures are > often inaccurate. > > P-TTL fires two flashes. The first measures the light bouncing off the > shutter to determine the exposure. The second flash illuminates the > subject for the photograph. The AF 360 and the Sigma models with P-TTL > are both good. The Sigma is more powerful and the head swivels. The > Pentax covers a wider angle (24 mm. film/16 mm. dslr) without having to > add a diffuser. > > As for the exposure problems that you noted in another post, try > center-weighted metering rather than program metering and see if the > results are better. > > Joe > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:50:39 +0100 > From: Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Ken Hauck <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > Subject: Re: *istD storage > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi Ken, > > try looking in www.robgralbraith.com > > Good light! > fra > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:58:30 -0500 > From: Luigi de Guzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: *ist ds review > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On Wednesday 19 January 2005 11:34, Dave wrote: > > This may have been covered, but can anyone describe how functional this > > camera is with a manual K mount lens? I know the *istD has some sort of > > button, green I think that was enhanced via firmware for this. > > Surf on over to my livejournal to see how functional my *istDS is with a > manual K-mount 50mm f/1.4 Rikenon. > > To use manual lenses, you must enable the custom function that permits the > shutter to fire when the aperture ring of the lens is not set to "A". > > You get centreweighted metering when you press the AE-lock button: the > camera > will briefly stop down to the taking aperture, set a recommended > shutter-speed, and open up again. > > Essentially, you get a digital spotmatic when you mount a manual K- or M- > lens. > > -Luigi > http://www.livejournal.com/users/ouij > > > > > Dave > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tim Sherburne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:10 AM > > > To: Pentax Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: *ist ds review > > > > > > > > > > > > That sneaky guy, it looks like he published his final review > yesterday. > > > > > > t > > > > > > On 1/19/05 5:47, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > > > > I don't recall seeing this in the list; apologies if it's a > duplicate. > > > > > > > > http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/istds.html > > > > > > > > Kostas > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:00:24 -0800 > From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > Subject: Re: OT-Coffee Theory > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Everyone has different tastes. Mine is definitely not for > Starbucks coffee. > I'm almost 58 years old now and have been drinking coffee since I was > perhaps eight years old, when my dad would bring home fresh > ground 8 O'clock > Coffee from the A&P. (That's The Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company to > you young'uns. - No, it did not stunt my growth.) My favorite coffees are > pure Kona or Blue Mountain, but they are quite expensive and rarely > available from coffee houses, though some independents will have Blue > Mountain on occasion or will order the beans for me. Sometimes I can > convince them to put several small crystals of sea salt in with > the grounds > when they brew it. Starbucks over roasts their beans, and they do it for > good fiscal reasons. The over roasted beans have a longer shelf life and > have fewer problems in shipping. Over roasting produces a darker and more > acrid coffee with somewhat less caffeine. A darker look and an acrid taste > does not equal a rich flavor. Good beans, properly roasted and brewed > properly at the right temperature with the right flow, produce a rich, > flavorful, highly drinkable, non acrid taste. FYI, Starbucks is not in the > business of selling coffee any more than Kodak was ever in the business of > selling cameras. They are in the business of selling lattes, mochas and > various other made up drinks with Italian sounding names. These are drinks > with coffee in them, but with so much extra stuff that the taste of the > actual coffee is more like a condiment than the main course. As to > Starbuck's coffee requiring an "acquired taste", keep in mind > that anything > that tastes like crap can become an acquired taste, even to the point that > you may believe that you can't live without it. This explains Scot's (or > scotch to some) whiskey. You may ask, "well how do you explain the great > popularity of Starbuck's?" First, they have the best marketing since > MacDonald's, and second, The common lemming effect. "Everyone thinks it's > good so it must be good and if I say I don't like it, then I will > betray my > immaturity as a coffee connoisseur so I will drink it until I acquire a > taste for it and when I finely get to the point where it no > longer gags me, > I'll tell everyone it's an 'acquired' taste thereby showing my > sophistication regarding the world of gourmet coffee." I am > currently typing > this from "It's A Grind" where the coffee is smooth, rich and > flavorful and > where the wireless internet is totally free. > > Regards, > Bob... > ----------------------------------------- > "Don't be a lemming!" - R. Blakely > > From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Bob aptly noted: > >> > It's an American peculiarity to equate high popularity with high > >> > quality. > >> > >> Well, I can't dispute that. Popularity proves nothing. Witness > McDonalds, > >> Coca-Cola, and Budweiser. But as a lifelong coffee drinker who consumes > >> upwards of a quart a day, I still contend that Starbucks is more > >> drinkable than most. However, I didn't like it at first. The dark roast > >> is definitely an acquired taste. I continued to drink ti > because I found > >> the one Starbucks that i frequent a pleasant place to spend an hour or > >> two. Now I enjoy their coffee. Although I must add that I can > make better > >> coffee at home with Sumatra beans that I purchase in bulk and a simple > >> coffee press. In any case this has wandered far off topic, and I'm sure > >> it's taking far too much space. > >> Paul > >> > > > > You're right, Paul, this is getting more than a bit OT, but that never > > stopped me before! <g> > > > > I'm far from an expert in coffee (or anything for that matter <g>), > > but I'll tell you (and everyone else) something. If you want good > > coffee, buy green beans and roast them yourself. It's quite easy, > > doesn't take all that long, and one learns a bit about the whole > > coffee roasting thing. I can't tell beans from one country or region > > to another. But, there's nothing as good as coffee from fresh (as in > > 5 minutes ago) roasted beans, freshly ground, brewed properly in a > > French Press coffeemaker. > > > > cheers, > > frank > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:10:14 +0100 > From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > Subject: RE: flash for *ist D > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ...I just made an interesting discovery. > I switched the red light SCA 374/2 AF adapter on the "faulty" Metz 32 CT3 > flash, with a regular SCA-372 adapter. > Then the problem was gone. The same adapter was used on the previous test > with the Metz 32 Z-2, which performed fine. > I even tryed annother SCA 374/2 AF adapter to make sure this wasn't out of > order. Same result. > > This leads me to this conclusion: > Red light AF-Assist don't work right with the *ist D! It may cause the TTL > to malfunction. To some extend, at least. > > Even the "faulty" AF500FTZ has a built-in red light AF-assist. The > (correctly working) AF280T doesn't. > > I have no scientific proof for this (I haven't got a clue about > electronics...), but it still strikes me as a plausible explanation. > > All the best > Jens > > > Intersting problem. > I just briefly tested 4 TTL-flashes on the *ist D at 200-400-800 ASA (same > speed and F-stop) : > AF500FTZ > Metz 32 CT3 > Metz 32 Z-2 > Pentax AF280T > > The two first gave me the same problem as described by Micahael; brighter > image, when the ISO setting is turned up. > The two next flashes didn't. They gave me correct exposure, regardless of > the ISO setting at all three settings. > > Other than that, I think the AF 500 FTZ works quite well with the *ist D. > Red AF assist light and all. > > That's odd, isn't it? > Jens Bladt > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 19. januar 2005 16:24 > Til: pdml > Emne: Re: flash for *ist D > > > Michael, TTL flashes do not seem to work consistently well with digital > SLRs. Some people get good results some of the time, at some ISO > settings but not others, with some exposure compensation, etc. The > reason is that TTL measures light off the film plane. Of course, a dslr > does not have a film plane, so light has to be measured off the sensor. > The sensor does not have the same reflectivity as film, so exposures are > often inaccurate. > > P-TTL fires two flashes. The first measures the light bouncing off the > shutter to determine the exposure. The second flash illuminates the > subject for the photograph. The AF 360 and the Sigma models with P-TTL > are both good. The Sigma is more powerful and the head swivels. The > Pentax covers a wider angle (24 mm. film/16 mm. dslr) without having to > add a diffuser. > > As for the exposure problems that you noted in another post, try > center-weighted metering rather than program metering and see if the > results are better. > > Joe > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:11:52 -0800 > From: Tim Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax Discussion List <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > Subject: Re: *istD storage > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > For some reason, he took the Pentax scores off. I'm not sure why, and I > couldn't find an archive. > > Tim > > On 1/19/05 11:50, Frantisek wrote: > > > Hi Ken, > > > > try looking in www.robgralbraith.com > > > > Good light! > > fra > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:21:29 -0600 > From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: moving on - with the *istDS > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > This could happen if you didn't have the lens in the "A" setting. Or if > it didn't have one and you didn't press the manual exposure button. > > rg > > > Michael Heim wrote: > > A word to the *ist D. Last fall i was travelling trought ecuador with my > > *istD and i've taken some two or treeethousand (!) pictures. > > Together with the lence offered together with the body (18-35 mm), > > everything worked well and i'm quite happy to have bueyed the camera. > > together with my older 28-200 lence, i saw an interresting effect. > > sometimes the exposure didn't work correct. the pictures were too bright > > and i had to go down by manual correction by about two steps. i think to > > remember that this only hapenned with big zoom. > > So in some situations the *istD seems to have problems with > older lences, > > not optimised for digital cameras. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:21:01 -0800 > From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Finally - enabled > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > He didn't see the camera ... I was way in the back of the crowd, he was up > front near the podium. It was dark, no flash was used. I was surprised > that the camera disturbed him, although earlier that evening I grabbed a > couple of shots at a photo exhibition, and caused a bit of a disturbance. > Two shots and I put the camera away. I'd not realized how loud it was > until then. > > Shel > > > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I wonder if that person would've "heard" the camera had he or she not > also > > *seen* it. I can hear a Leica M shutter from across a room -- if I know > it's > > there and I'm listening for it! > > I mean, I agree that the LX is louder than some other cameras > (Pentax Ms, > > Leica Ms, Pentax ZXs and anything with a properly-functioning > leaf-shutter) > > but in the situation you describe, it seems to me there was more going > on. > > Or, if the person was standing very close to you. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:31:49 +0100 > From: "Michael Heim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > Subject: AW: flash for *ist D > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > For the AF500 that means: forget it. Right? > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Januar 2005 21:10 > An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Betreff: RE: flash for *ist D > > > ...I just made an interesting discovery. > I switched the red light SCA 374/2 AF adapter on the "faulty" Metz 32 > CT3 flash, with a regular SCA-372 adapter. Then the problem was gone. > The same adapter was used on the previous test with the Metz 32 Z-2, > which performed fine. I even tryed annother SCA 374/2 AF adapter to make > sure this wasn't out of order. Same result. > > This leads me to this conclusion: > Red light AF-Assist don't work right with the *ist D! It may cause the > TTL to malfunction. To some extend, at least. > > Even the "faulty" AF500FTZ has a built-in red light AF-assist. The > (correctly working) AF280T doesn't. > > I have no scientific proof for this (I haven't got a clue about > electronics...), but it still strikes me as a plausible explanation. > > All the best > Jens > > > Intersting problem. > I just briefly tested 4 TTL-flashes on the *ist D at 200-400-800 ASA > (same speed and F-stop) : AF500FTZ Metz 32 CT3 Metz 32 Z-2 Pentax AF280T > > The two first gave me the same problem as described by Micahael; > brighter image, when the ISO setting is turned up. The two next flashes > didn't. They gave me correct exposure, regardless of the ISO setting at > all three settings. > > Other than that, I think the AF 500 FTZ works quite well with the *ist > D. Red AF assist light and all. > > That's odd, isn't it? > Jens Bladt > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 19. januar 2005 16:24 > Til: pdml > Emne: Re: flash for *ist D > > > Michael, TTL flashes do not seem to work consistently well with digital > SLRs. Some people get good results some of the time, at some ISO > settings but not others, with some exposure compensation, etc. The > reason is that TTL measures light off the film plane. Of course, a dslr > does not have a film plane, so light has to be measured off the sensor. > The sensor does not have the same reflectivity as film, so exposures are > often inaccurate. > > P-TTL fires two flashes. The first measures the light bouncing off the > shutter to determine the exposure. The second flash illuminates the > subject for the photograph. The AF 360 and the Sigma models with P-TTL > are both good. The Sigma is more powerful and the head swivels. The > Pentax covers a wider angle (24 mm. film/16 mm. dslr) without having to > add a diffuser. > > As for the exposure problems that you noted in another post, try > center-weighted metering rather than program metering and see if the > results are better. > > Joe > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:45:02 +0100 > From: "Michael Heim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > Subject: AW: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Drinks are often related with ceremonies. Remember the brits with their > afternoon tea, the asian or north african tea ceremony (for example in > Tunisia). > I think in none of these Countries, the ceremony is related to religion. > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Januar 2005 20:16 > An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Betreff: Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited > > > Hi, > > > On the other hand, Coca-Cola *is* intended to be consumed as a > > beverage. BTW, I found the Ethiopian coffee article very interesting. > > Thanks to whoever (Bob W?) shared it. Wonder if devout Rastafarians > > find party-use of marijuana offensive? > > I don't think so. > > Coffee doesn't have any religious significance with Ethiopians, so it's > not like ganja for rastas, and disrespecting is not, as someone > supposed, like pissing in a mosque. > > Perhaps the nearest equivalent to their ceremony might be something like > passing the port round after a formal dinner, or enjoying single malts, > or vintage wine with friends, then finding out that people swig it from > paper cups in brown bags while walking to work in the morning. > > It's difficult to find a modern European equivalent because we have all > but dispensed with that level of formality and ritual on a daily basis. > > -- > Cheers, > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:02:27 -0800 > From: Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT-Coffee Theory > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Bob Blakely wrote: > > > Everyone has different tastes. Mine is definitely not for Starbucks > > coffee. I'm almost 58 years old now and have been drinking coffee since > > I was perhaps eight years old, when my dad would bring home fresh ground > > 8 O'clock Coffee from the A&P. (That's The Great Atlantic and Pacific > > Tea Company to you young'uns. - No, it did not stunt my growth.) My > > favorite coffees are pure Kona or Blue Mountain, but they are quite > > expensive and rarely available from coffee houses, though some > > independents will have Blue Mountain on occasion or will order the beans > > for me. > > Either or both are excellent coffees. I always take home some Kona > coffee when we go to the Islands. > > > Sometimes I can convince them to put several small crystals of > > sea salt in with the grounds when they brew it. > > What does that do to it? > > [...] > > > As to > > Starbuck's coffee requiring an "acquired taste", keep in mind that > > anything that tastes like crap can become an acquired taste, even to the > > point that you may believe that you can't live without it. This explains > > Scot's (or scotch to some) whiskey. > > That's "whisky," Suh! Scotch malt whisky. > Thanks be Starbucks doesn 't serve (and ruin) good whisky too! > > You may ask, "well how do you > > explain the great popularity of Starbuck's?" First, they have the best > > marketing since MacDonald's, and second, The common lemming effect. > > "Everyone thinks it's good so it must be good and if I say I don't like > > it, then I will betray my immaturity as a coffee connoisseur so I will > > drink it until I acquire a taste for it and when I finely get to the > > point where it no longer gags me, I'll tell everyone it's an 'acquired' > > taste thereby showing my sophistication regarding the world of gourmet > > coffee." I am currently typing this from "It's A Grind" where the coffee > > is smooth, rich and flavorful and where the wireless internet is totally > > free. > > > > Regards, > > Bob... > > Keith Whaley > Member, "Friends of the Classic Malts ." ;¬) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:09:53 -0500 > From: Andre Langevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: The Great Gray Owl invasion > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Nice shots! > > Reminds me of a case mentionned on TV last week, of a Grey Owl that > attacked a series of people in a small town. Still far from > Hitchcock scene though... But always puzzling to find aggressive > behaviour in normally non-agressive animals. > > Andre > > -------------------------------- > End of pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 Issue #70 > ******************************************** > -------------------------------- End of pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 Issue #72 ********************************************
