William, 

I am very happy with the performance of film in 4x5 and larger
formats. Grain and other defects become quite small. I've been
producing photographs for exhibition and other use for close on
42 years now, and I'm quite happy to use film where it's
appropriate. My current work does not require, would be
constrained, by LF film and even MF film. 

35mm film, on the other hand, is what digital cameras in this
discussion are being compared against, and most significantly
the digital cameras being discussed are Pentax DSLRs. A digital
camera of this calibre with a good lens and sufficient
resolution does a better job of making quality images for
pictorial purposes ... It does not transfer defects of
significance to the image and is easier to scale to large sizes
(A3/A3 Super defining my upper limit for 35mm exhibition grade
prints from film), it does not impart a look to the images that
I have to work with or around. I can render whatever the
recorded image might be with whatever look I feel is appropriate
to the expression I seek, and I can choose the rendering
flexibly, after the point of exposure. 

It's lovely to be accused of being a troll and an "Antonio",
whomsoever or whatsoever that might be. I really don't care,
however, so you might as well save the invective for other
souls. 

> At the moment, all we have is:
> "There is no "digital look". A photograph recorded with a
> digital  camera looks as it ought to, as a capture of light
without
> defects intrduced by the capture medium."

The first sentence I stand by. Digital recording, in and of
themselves, do not have a specific look, unless you want to
consider the lack of transferred film rendering defects as a
"look"... As another list member said, the images a digital
camera makes are neutral and very adaptable to a wide variety of
rendering techniques. 

The second sentence is being quoted out of the context of the
rest of the discussion and has assumptions embedded in it from
the discussion. Of course digital cameras are not perfect, that
goes without saying, and a proof could be made that no recording
device can produce a 100% perfect recording of an original
subject. Such a device would be a replicating device, not a
recording device. 

Godfrey

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