Hi Fred, interesting comments indeed

> Nowadays, when I mount a lens on a body, my mind sort 
> of switches into either a "focus to the left mode" or a "focus to 
> the right mode", and only rarely do I catch myself focusing in the 
> "wrong" direction.

I never could master that, in a rush I would automatically default to 
the "Pentax direction".

> The other brand that I've used a lot lenses from is Tokina.  Back in 
> the "RMC" days (before the AT-X lenses were introduced, Tokina 
> lenses (at least the ones I've tried) focused "backwards" compared 
> to Pentax lenses (just like the VS1 lenses).  However, starting with 
> the AT-X lenses, all of the AT-X lenses I've tried have focused just 
> like jen-you-wine Pentax lenses. In fact, Tokina catalogs and/or 
> magazine ads for a while even mentioned that the lenses were 
> manufactured so that they would focus in the "manufacturer 
> direction" (which, I assumed, meant that they must have had some 
> mirror-image assembly lines to accommodate both directions).

I've read that about the ATX lenses, however I've never owned one the only 
Tokina lens I have is the 17mm SL which focuses in the "wrong" direction. I 
find it not that big a problem due to the nature of use, I usually have 
plenty of time to focus and compose the shot.

Unfortunately some of my newer lenses from Sigma now focus in the "wrong" 
direction such as the 105 EX, I think they must have dropped the idea of 
manufacturers direction c.1997 because I have a 300 f4 APO with the focus 
correct for Pentax that I bought around about that time. I suppose the 
thinking is that most people now use AF but it's not the case for me when I'm 
using the 105 for Macro or portrait work, shame.

> It has been my experience that this has generally been true with a 
> lot of the older constant-aperture zooms, but is more likely to be 
> "backwards" on the variable-aperture zooms. (I am sure that there 
> must be a number of exceptions to this generalization, but it has 
> worked this way for me, as a rule.)  Since I generally do not care 
> for variable-aperture zooms (unless there are any overriding optical 
> considerations that just cannot be ignored), I am quite used to one-
> touch zooms functioning as you describe.

I'm sure you're right there, although I do own one exception: SMC Pentax M 35-
70 f2.8/3.5, I've had some very nice results from it.

It's been good to share some thoughts and comments with you.

John


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From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John Whittingham <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:49:56 -0500
Subject: Focus Direction [was: Pentax 50mm News]

> Hi, John.
> 
> > While I'm on the subject of niggles two of my 
> > pet hates are:
> 
> > 1. Lenses whos focusing ring turns in the opposite direction to a genuine
> > Pentax lens. (Congrats to Sigma on the Syncho II lenses)
> 
> This is something that is less important to me now than it used to 
> be.  At one time, I found it pretty frustrating to find myself 
> turning a focus ring in the wrong direction with certain 3rd-party 
> lenses.  However, I've eventually gotten used to this (since there 
> are some 3rd-party lenses - especially all the sweet VS1 lenses that 
> I cherish - that are too nice to not use because they focus the 
> "wrong" way).  Nowadays, when I mount a lens on a body, my mind sort 
> of switches into either a "focus to the left mode" or a "focus to 
> the right mode", and only rarely do I catch myself focusing in the 
> "wrong" direction.
> 
> Unfortunately (although less of a nuisance to me nowadays), all of 
> the Vivitar Series 1 lenses I've used focus in the "wrong" 
> direction.  As I've alluded to above, though, there are too many 
> really neat VS1 lenses to ignore just because of this.
> 
> The other brand that I've used a lot lenses from is Tokina.  Back in 
> the "RMC" days (before the AT-X lenses were introduced, Tokina 
> lenses (at least the ones I've tried) focused "backwards" compared 
> to Pentax lenses (just like the VS1 lenses).  However, starting with 
> the AT-X lenses, all of the AT-X lenses I've tried have focused just 
> like jen-you-wine Pentax lenses. In fact, Tokina catalogs and/or 
> magazine ads for a while even mentioned that the lenses were 
> manufactured so that they would focus in the "manufacturer 
> direction" (which, I assumed, meant that they must have had some 
> mirror-image assembly lines to accommodate both directions).
> 
> > 2. One touch zoom lenses that 'zoom out' when you pull the slide towards
> > you instead of 'zooming in'. (Spent a lot of time at M/cycle races!)
> 
> Unlike the focus direction problem (which I've sort of gotten used 
> to, as mentioned above), this is a serious consideration for me. 
>  Fortunately, though, almost every one of my one-touch zooms focus 
> the same way, zooming in (i.e., zooming to a longer focal length)
>  when the zoom/focus ring is pulled toward the mount end of the lens.
> 
> It has been my experience that this has generally been true with a 
> lot of the older constant-aperture zooms, but is more likely to be 
> "backwards" on the variable-aperture zooms. (I am sure that there 
> must be a number of exceptions to this generalization, but it has 
> worked this way for me, as a rule.)  Since I generally do not care 
> for variable-aperture zooms (unless there are any overriding optical 
> considerations that just cannot be ignored), I am quite used to one-
> touch zooms functioning as you describe.
> 
> The one lens that comes to mind, that I still have that is 
> "backwards" for zooming, is the VS1 70-210/2.8-4 Q-DOS lens, for 
> which I simply put up with its "backward" zooming (but, since the Q-
> DOS 3-D effect is more pronounced at the longer FL end anyway, I end 
> up using it racked out - or is that "in" - at the 210mm end most of 
> the time).
> 
> Fred
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