I know how you feel, Donald. Last week, I set my sights on a Canon Canonet QL17 rangefinder. It was a GIII--the final, most sought-after model--and it was BLACK, a combination nearly impossible to find. Unaware of what he had, the seller mentioned neither fact in his title. Having tipped my "gotta have it" hand a few minutes too soon the preceding Sunday, I waited till the final minute to begin to place my first bid, only to watch in horror as the screen took forever to let me confirm. By the time I did, time had run out. The camera went for $89.50--about the same as its dime-a-dozen silver stablemate. And who won it? The same guy who had outsniped me that Sunday. "Donald Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The difference was 30 seconds. I was bidding from work and it took forever to refresh from my last successful bid. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

