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pentax-discuss-d Digest Volume 05 : Issue 200
Today's Topics:
Re: PAW: Ramat Gan Business District [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: PAW: First Robin of Spring [ Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
RE: NorCal PDML Outing [ "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
RE: What setting. Was:flash on *istD [ "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: NorCal PDML Outing [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15 [ "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Fuji RDP Strangeness [ "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness [ Henri Toivonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw [ "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: PESO - Waning Light [ Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15 [ "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness [ "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw [ Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: What setting. Was:flash on *istD [ Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Sorta OT: Link to possible photo op' [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: What setting. Was:flash on *istD [ Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:38:45 EST
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Subject: Re: PAW: Ramat Gan Business District from 49th floor (take II)
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In a message dated 2/4/2005 7:23:46 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:40:42 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 4 Feb 2005 at 7:17, Boris Liberman wrote:
http://webaperture.com/gallery/photos/42431
No comments. Only notice that this was shot at 1600 ISO. I must say
that 100% magnification of original image looks rather disappointing.
I should print it and see how it prints.
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I'd like it better under different weather conditions.
Marnie aka Doe
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:40:03 -0500
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: PAW: First Robin of Spring
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Thanks Marnie. I just finished reworking it in the RAW converter. I was
able to reduce the noise a bit and was very conservative on the
saturation and contrast. I saw another robin while I was out running
this morning and realized that I was quite a bit over the top in terms
of the breast coloration.
Paul
On Feb 6, 2005, at 11:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/5/2005 3:21:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan today. I went
shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was surprised to see a
few Robins. It
seems a bit early for these spring arrivals, but I'm not complaining.
Maybe they
know something we don't. Here's one. Again, this is handheld with the
*istD,
tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS converter. So the fov is equivelant to a
1200 mm
lens on a 35mm camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @ 1/1000.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297&size=lg
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Really nice shot, Paul. He's nicely framed by the branches, isn't he?
I'll skip any steady comment. Said it last time.
Marnie aka Doe :-)
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 08:43:59 -0800
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi Bruce ...
I might be able to make it this year. Which missions are you talking
about, and where might they be?
This is the first I heard about this. Just curious as to who decided on
the missions and the date, and when that happened. Perhaps I missed a
bunch of messages.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Bruce Dayton
This is a notice for anyone in reasonable driving distance to the Bay
area - We are going to have a PDML photo outing on March 5th. The
plan is to meet and shoot at one of the missions in the area. I've
got to get that finalized, but the date is solid. Hopefully any of
you near San Francisco (I'm in Sacramento) will join us for a fun day.
Check your calendars and let me know if you might be able to join us.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:54:34 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw
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In a message dated 2/6/2005 6:34:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/beach0367.jpg
Shot this yesterday.Thought it was a decent picture,plus a bit on the
humourous side to.
I originally stopped as i wanted to try and shoot the skidoo and icehut being
transported,but was to
slow.
Anyway,enjoy and comments welcome as always
Dave(still fiquring out snow exposures on the D) Brooks
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Huh. I may never complain again about any cold we have here in California. At
least we don't have THAT.
I think I'd like it better taken at more of an angle. Sign on right, beach
stretching out on left. Or just closer a bit to the sign, giving it more
prominence. Or maybe there was a reason you didn't get a bit closer. The white sign
is distracting, and the brown sign doesn't get full impact because of that and
also it's a tinge hard to read/see. Doesn't pop out. Just my IMHO. Take it
with a grain of salt.
Meandering off on that tangent, was there ever any reason that people would
have once sprinkled salt on snow? Seems strange to me I have some vague idea of
that kicking around in my head. Read it somewhere once or something. Or maybe
it was salt on birds' tails. Both seem totally weird. Folk tales or another
senior moment. Who knows?
HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 17:57:54 +0100
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
Subject: RE: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs
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Wierd discoveries:
I've been folling around with my D and some TTL flashes (AF 500FTZ, Metz CT3
and Metz 32 Z-2).
Unlike PZ-1 and MZ-S, when the camera is set to Green Program or "P", it
will NOT choose speeds longer than 1/60 sec.
(using FA 1.4/50mm), no matter which dedicated falsh is used (This used to
vary with the falsh used). That's an improvement - I used to hate, when it
choose 1/30 sec. The reason for using MANUAL-mode when ever a flash was on.
In Green Mode the camera will choose fro 1/60 to ?
If the speed is faster than 1/150 sec. the flash simply won't fire.
But here's the funny part: If I point the camera directly into a light
source (light bulb) the camera may chose a bigger aperture (like 2.0) and a
slightly faster speed (like 1/200sec.) If I turn the camera down towards a
darker place - it will choose perhaps 5.6 and 1/100 sec.
Now, that's wierd!!
In P mode it's the same as green mode, except it will not go above (faster)
1/150 sec. (max sync. speed)
(Green mode and P-mode is good for all 'round shooting)
In Tv mode the camera can be set to any speed equal to or slower than 1/150
sec
Tv is good for "slow-flash" shots - you know; the girl friend in front of
the setting sun, utilizing the long speed for the background, the flash for
freezing the model).
In Av mode the camera will choose from speeds between 1/60 and 1/150secs.
Av is good for when you want to utilize the available light, without risking
too low speeds/motion blur.
I guess I'll start using Av mode now (now I have the lower 1/60 secs.
imit) - and of cource I must remember to check the "flash OK" indication
light.
I hope this makes sence for D-users as well as for DS-users.
Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
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Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 16:37
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Emne: RE: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs
I am a D-user, not DS.
But I belive this goes for both.
I never trust automatic flash programs, since I can't hold speeds longer
than 1/30 sec. still eneough, anyway.
I always shoot on MANUAL, when using a flash. The TTL will still works, when
using PZ-1 or later cameras!!
At long exposures (1/30 or longer) the flash will not "freeze movement" if
there's much available light present.
I set the speed and aperture accordning to the shooting conditions. I
prefere indirect flash, bounched off the cieling.
And I prefere to utilize as much as the available light as possible.
So, before selection my setting I make a redaing as if there's no falsh.
If it says 1/60 sec. F5.6, I may shoot at 1/60 sec. F8 or prhaps 1/125 F5.6
or F8 - if the subject (people) are moveing around. A small "underexposure"
(that is as close to the values, I got from measuring the available light)
will utilize as much of the available light as possible, still taking
advantage of the falsh.
Se my test:
No falsh, camera metering:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921186.html
Clixk "next" to see the flash fotograph, based on the above shown metering,
or:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921434.html
Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
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Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 10:43
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Emne: Re:What setting. Was:flash on *istDs
>>Bruce said
As for using the 280T, try setting the ISO to 400 and then doing a few
test shots to dial in some minus compensation. I use the AF400T all
the time for weddings and end up using about -2 stops compensation. With
that,
most shots are pretty good in TTL.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Bruce.
What setting on the camera . Do you use Manual shutter and F stop or AV or
Tv etc.
My few test shots lately find Av and -0.5 seem good,but i have not delved
into it a lot.
Dave
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:00:57 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: NorCal PDML Outing
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In a message dated 2/6/2005 8:45:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Bruce ...
I might be able to make it this year. Which missions are you talking
about, and where might they be?
This is the first I heard about this. Just curious as to who decided on
the missions and the date, and when that happened. Perhaps I missed a
bunch of messages.
Shel
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Bruce and I tend to talk off list about it first. He's the "organizer" and I
try to help come up with ideas, etc. I guess you could say we both provide
some impetus for getting together at all. With Bruce organizing, it seems to go
well. That's been the previous time and this, anyway. If people want to do it
differently in the future we can discuss that at the next meet, of course.
But IMHO, this sort of thing always works better if one person takes charge.
Doesn't have to be the same person every time, naturally. But I ain't
volunteering and Bruce is willing to.
Marnie aka Doe :-)
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:24:26 US/Eastern
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> In a message dated 2/6/2005 6:34:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/beach0367.jpg
Dave(still fiquring out snow exposures on the D) Brooks
Marnie wrote
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Huh. I may never complain again about any cold we have here in California. At
least we don't have THAT.
I think I'd like it better taken at more of an angle. Sign on right, beach
stretching out on left. Or just closer a bit to the sign, giving it more
prominence. Or maybe there was a reason you didn't get a bit closer. The white sign
is distracting, and the brown sign doesn't get full impact because of that and
also it's a tinge hard to read/see. Doesn't pop out. Just my IMHO. Take it
with a grain of salt.
Thanks for the comments.
I only had a few moments to stop and shoot out the window.. The road is very narrow and
busy.Maybe
next time if i'm up i'll try and find a parking spot and try different angles.
Meandering off on that tangent, was there ever any reason that people would
have once sprinkled salt on snow? Seems strange to me I have some vague idea of
that kicking around in my head. Read it somewhere once or something. Or maybe
it was salt on birds' tails. Both seem totally weird. Folk tales or another
senior moment. Who knows?
Salt on snow melts it into lovely slush.LOL
Its used with great flair up here and will destroy a car in a very short time.
As far as
salt on a
birds tail,makes it taste better.LOL
Dave
HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 09:24:24 -0800
From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
Subject: Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15
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This lens came from Sweden. My favorite camera shop guy hunted all over for
it. This thing is GREAT! It's opened up a whole new way of looking at the
world for me. I've yet to get several rolls of film shot through it
developed to see it's actual performance, but the view through the finder is
great. I'm going to coin a new phrase here - "indoor scenics". If you have
one of these things, you know what I mean.
Regards,
Bob...
From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Very reasonable. Here in the UK, the list price is equivalent to $2,638.
J
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:30:51 -0800, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I just picked up one of these SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15 babies in pristine
condition (not even any evidence that it was ever actually mounted on a
camera), in case for US$890 plus tax which I consider to be an excellent
bargain. I'm off to the pier to make it look 2 miles long. I have a
granite,
gothic church to shoot interiors of too.
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 09:27:09 -0800
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Fuji RDP Strangeness
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Last night I tried scanning what I thought were some color negs, and the
results were awful. Upon examining the strips carefully I noticed that
there was no orange mask, so I thought that the film may have been slide
film. Tried scanning as transparency, and the results were just as bad.
Finally I read the film info in the border and discovered the film to be
Fuji RDP, which is a slide film. However, all slide film I've ever seen
has black borders, this has clear. And the colors are strange, with a
subtle and somewhat greenish cast over all. I also recall getting prints
from this roll.
So, what kind of weirdness is happening. Maybe the lab processed it as neg
film - cross processing?
Shel
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Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 18:28:53 +0100
From: Henri Toivonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Last night I tried scanning what I thought were some color negs, and the
results were awful. Upon examining the strips carefully I noticed that
there was no orange mask, so I thought that the film may have been slide
film. Tried scanning as transparency, and the results were just as bad.
Finally I read the film info in the border and discovered the film to be
Fuji RDP, which is a slide film. However, all slide film I've ever seen
has black borders, this has clear. And the colors are strange, with a
subtle and somewhat greenish cast over all. I also recall getting prints
from this roll.
So, what kind of weirdness is happening. Maybe the lab processed it as neg
film - cross processing?
Shel
This sounds like a case of cross processing, yes.
Scan it as a negative and experiment with the results.
/Henri
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:15:58 -0600
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw
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Subject: Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw
Meandering off on that tangent, was there ever any reason that
people would
have once sprinkled salt on snow?
It melts the stuff. In many places, it is common to sprinkle vast
amounts of salt on the highways to keep them free of ice.
We have a potash mine not far from here, and they are now selling one
of their tailings materials (potassium chloride, I believe) as both
an ice melter and as a salt replacement for water softeners.
William Robb
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 09:32:05 -0800
From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jens Bladt <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
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Thanks, Jens.
