Thanks - that's exactly what I was wondering. I'll probably try it - though with plenty of regular B&W on hand, I'm not sure why.... :-)

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chan Yong Wei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: Re[3]: C 41 B&W film



I hope I haven't misunderstood what you're saying; but I've heard on
some places (probably photo.net) that one can develop XP2 with
conventional/traditional B&W developers, and have it come out looking
more or less like regular negatives.


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:59:28 -0500, Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On a tangential note - I've been experimenting with developing C41 color in
traditional B&W developers, and then extracting the silver image by
scanning. Produces some interesting results. I should probably try this with
XP2 Super - the major problem with the color film is the orange mask, and
I'd be curious to see what sort of mask the XP2 comes out when handled (or
mishandled) in this manner.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alin Flaider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:02 AM
Subject: Re[3]: C 41 B&W film

>
>  Highlights are compressed at 200 but that's a small price to pay for
>  clean shadows. Originally I was shooting XP2 at 400 ASA as the
>  recommended optimum sensitivity. Darker shadows than 2 EVs then
>  comes out with blotchy, irregular grain. And it's grain all right
>  not just noise introduced by the tone expansion, as it is obvious on
>  the optical prints as well.
>
>  Servus,  Alin
>
> Godfrey wrote:
> GD> My experience with XP2 says that you were overexposing it too
> GD> much at ASA 200, compressing tonal scale quite a lot. I found it
> GD> best in the range ASA 320 to 640. Going down to 200-250 produces
> GD> very flat negative: all the highlights are compressed.
>
> GD> Yes, underexposing it creates grainier images.
>
> GD> Compensation for the compressed histogram by scanning to 16bit
> GD> and then adjusting the gamma curve. It's amazing how much data
> GD> can be pulled out of a thin negative if you work at it.
>
>
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