There is nothing defensive about her body language. Somewhat aggressive in fact. This is not a "down and out" photo. However, a bit controversy is what makes street type photos so interesting. There have been a couple of comments about the other pedestrian and the van. I think they kind of make the picture, give it context, and date stamp it.

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frank theriault wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:40:12 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This exemplifies one of the reasons I am not personally happy photographing on the 
street.  To me, she looks like she has been assaulted and is, as you say, trying to hold 
on to her dignity.  She certainly doesn't (within the constraints of a monitor image) 
look calm, confident and composed.  To me there is a hint of "I don't want you to do 
that but I don't want any more aggravation today".

Now we can wander off into a big debate on the ethics of picturing people in 
distressing situations....

mike

p.s apologies for any typos but this is webmail and, if you don't work quickly, the account access times out.


Mike (and the others who thought that she looked like she's been
assaulted or that she's a street person - whatever that means),

I recognize that I have the advantage of seeing the print, which for
some reason is tack sharp (what did I do wrong? <g>).  From the print,
one can see the expression on her face much much better.  One can also
see that she certainly has no black eye;  it's just a shadow.

As far as the ripped hose, I think that's the "look" these days for
many kids her age.  You know, anti-fashion (to the point, ironically,
that it becomes "fashion" in and of itself.  It's like wearing ripped
jeans or whatever.  Judging by the legwarmers down around her ankles,
the scarves and boas that she has wrapped around her neck, and the
trendoid training shoes, I'd say her look probably cost her a bit.

As far as her facial expression, I see it as part "ain't I a cool
little bitch" and part 'what are you up to with that camera, buddy?"
but in no way did she mind me taking her pic.  I think there's a
swagger in both her body language and in her face.  Her nose's up in
the air.  Maybe she's an Art Student <g>.

Seriously, I wouldn't have posted the photo if I thought she'd been
recently assaulted or down and out.  If I do take photos of such "down
and outters", it's usually at their request, and always after chatting
with them for a bit, so they're comfortable with me.  I don't exploit
those that have already been noticeably exploited - at least I try not
to.

Anyway, I'm out the door, so this is it for my list participation for
tonight.  Goodbye party for a boss at our company.

cheers,
frank


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