You're right, Paul. Perhaps I shouldn't have said "threaten" him with negative
feedback; that was too strong a word. And yes, he did say that the items were
sold "as is". But he did make certain representations as to the condition of
the lenses. He said there was "nothing wrong" with the Tak aside from the
dented filter ring. He said that the 28mm Kitstar was in "good shape". And he
said that the body appeared to be in "good condition" other than the sticky
shutter.
Even if sold "as is", it seems to me that he mis-represented the condition of
those items. Obviously, I don't think that James should immediately contact the
seller screaming that he's going to register negative feedback if things aren't
rectified, but as a last resort, that is an option, IMHO. I guess that it
depends on how honourable the vendor is...
regards,
frank
"Provencher, Paul M." wrote:
> Actually, eBay strictly prohibits using or threatening negative feedback to
> in any way influence a seller... Not that anyone observes that rule, but it
> does turn the negotiation to an adversarial stage and I don't know that I
> would resort to that intially, or even after a phone conversation.
>
> Paul M. Provencher
> (ppro)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Ebay SPF
>
> Well, I hate to say it, James, but the vendor did say:
>
> > This lot is sold "as is" tho as I am not a camera expert, so I cannot
> guarantee that a cleaning will solve the shutter
> > problem.
> >
> Of course that doesn't give him license to misrepresent anything. I would
> think
> that about all you can do is ask for a refund and see if he's amenable under
> the
> circumstances. It would appear that he may not have been aware of the
> deficiencies.
>
> When asking for the refund, you could threaten him with negative feedback on
> eBay.
>
> Beyond that, Caveat Emptor rules, I would think.
>
> regards,
> frank
>
> James Adams wrote:
>
> > I received the Spotmatic F, lenses and flash today from the auction I won.
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1236238488
> >
> > The SPF shutter/mirror was jamming (which I fixed), and the SMC Tak 55mm
> > f1.8 lens had the filter ring dented from the camera being dropped. The
> rear
> > element had fluid marks inside the lens, plus what looks to be mold inside
> > the front element. The same is true for the Kitsar 28mm lens. On getting
> > home I found the spotmeter does not work, also the flash is dead. The only
> > thing that works ok, is the Kitstar 80mm - 210 Zoom.
> >
> > Quote: The lens that is ON the camera in the photos is marked ASAHI Opt.
> Co.
> > Japan SMC Takumar 1:1.8/55. This is the only lens with any
> damage.....there
> > is nothing wrong with the lens itself, but the other rim has been
> > dented/pushed in.
> >
> > Quote: Kitstar Multicoated 1:2.8 f=28 mm. It is in good shape and comes in
> > its own leather case.
> >
> > The 3rd lens (the zoom) is marked Kitstar Auto-Zoom 1:3.8 f=80mm - 210 mm
> >
> > What recourse have I got.
> > James
> >
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