On 30/3/05, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I waited until I had some time to experiment with this and talk about it 
>at the same time...
>
>Cotty wrote:
>
>> On 28/3/05, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>  
>>> I inserted an SD card (as used by my Optio S4) into my Lexar 
>>> Media card reader, and a drive icon appeared on my desktop.
>
>> Correct.
>
>>>  I clicked that, and iPhoto opened,
>
>> Hmm, the icon of your SD card is a mounted disk, and when double-clicked,
>> it should open a Finder window, not iPhoto.... however, I did the same
>> with a CF card and opened iPhoto manually. I don't use iPhoto, but I can
>> see that it is very similar ti iTunes, which I *do* use, so....
>
>I just did it again, to verify. As soon as I inserted the SD card in 
>it's viewer, which is attached to the CPU by way of a powered USB hub, 
>the drive icon appeared on my desktop, iPhoto appeared righ away and 
>showed the thumbnails in the Photo Library.

Okay, there's a preference somewhere that is set so when you pop in your
SD card, it runs iPhoto automatically. If you don't want that, you need
to turn it off. I can't find it, but the closest thing seems to be in
System Preferences - in the Apple Menu (top left) - look in the Hardware
row - click on 'CDs & DVDs' - check in there and see if anything is set
to open iPhoto. If it is, change it to 'ignore'.


>
>>>...with thumbnails of all my card's photos.
>
>> Did you import them? That's what I had to do. 
>
>Nope. they just appeared.
>
> > Once imported, then you can
>> eject the card. Put the card back in the camera and erase all on the card
>> if desired, or reformat the card. Either way it deletes all the images
>> from the card. Always do this in the camera, not in the computer.
>
>>> Some 113, as I recall... I moved several to the trash,
>
>> How did you trash them? Did you drag them to the iPhoto's trash can in
>> the panel on the left of the window? Or did you drag them to the Finder's
>> trash in the dock?
>
>I've done them both ways, but ONLY to the iPhoto trash can.
>One way is, select the image(s) and in menu bar, select File, Move to Trash.
>Or, select image(s) and click-drag them to the trash.
>it _seems_ to work both ways.  But then, I had troubles, didn't I.
>
>>> then made new folders that appeared in the 
>>> left hand side panel.
>
>> When you make a 'new folder' that appears in the left hand side panel,
>> you are making a 'New Album'. This is the same as making a new playlist
>> in an MP3 player, like iTunes. The albums at left are simply a viewing
>> order for looking at pictures. 
>
>Uh, okay. I understand that. Nothing wrong with that. I have titles like 
>"Xmas '04", "New Lawn," stuff like that. Totally different subjects. Ten 
>to maybe 160 images each.
>
>> The actual pictures themselves reside in
>> the Photo Library, which should appear always at the top left of the left
>> hand panel. If you look in there, you may find your pictures are still
>there.
>
>Even if I move them to individual folders? Which means I'm really only 
>_copying_ them to the folders, right?

No - not copying - just making a selection to view. The originals reside
in a folder within a folder called 'iPhoto Library' which lives in your
'Pictures' folder which lives in your Home folder - and these are managed
from the Photo Library window. If you delete one from the Photo Library
window, then it is deleted from the folder where all the originals are
stored - it is trashed.  Deleting an image from any album, just deletes
it from that album - it removes it from that particular viewing
arrangement. It does not delete the image from your stored images folder
(mentioned above). Neither does deleting albums have any effect on the
images stored in that folder, nor any images in the Photo Library window.
The Photo Library window is the important one.

test it:

In the Photo Library window (ensure Photo Library is selected from the
panel at left), create a new album on the left called 'test'.

Now drag a pic into 'test'  from the Photo Library window.

Now click on 'test' - there should be one pic in it (the one you just
dragged across).

Now click on Photo Library again and see if the original is still in
there as well. It should be.

Now click on 'test' again and delete the pic that you moved in there.

Now click on Photo Library again, and see if your pic is still in the
Photo Library even though you deleted it from 'test' album. It should be.

The Photo Library is the Holy Grail. It is the constant, it is all your
stored pics in (I presume) a numerical order. Not the best way to look at
pics, so you can create albums - viewing orders - to see your pics
organised by subject or whatever. the albums are simply aliases - they
don't really exist! The Photo Library exists and is real.



>> Deleting pictures from an album *does not* delete them from iPhoto - they
>> will still be in the Photo Library. If you delete them from the Photo
>> Library, then they are deleted. This is one of the reasons not to delete
>> anything from a media card (like your SD card) at the computer. 
>
>Well, the only thing I've ever deleted was what was in the left hand 
>panel's Trash can!
>I 'filled' the trash can with unwanted images that appeared in the main 
>window, which were from the Photo Library, or one of the folders.
>I moved unwanted images to the trash can, one by one, until all I had 
>left in the Photo Library and the individual folders were what I wanted 
>to save...
>What a joke!
>
>> Keep all
>> safe on the card until you have got everything the way you want it in
>> your chosen method of viewing/storage. Only then delete the SD card
>> images, and only then, back in the camera.
>
>Delete images ONLY from the card itself, and ONLY when that card is in 
>the camera?
>Is that what you're saying?

It's safer that way. Some cameras don't like computers deleting their
pics. It's safer.


HTH




Cheers,
  Cotty


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