OK... I've looked through lots of the information regarding the mounts, but I'm new to matrix metering and wasn't sure what it required. I guess it makes sense that the body would have to know not only the min/max, but also the *current* aperture. Without the mechanical coupling, there's no way to know what it is.

I would think that the body could potentially compute the approximate current aperture setting based on the amount of light before/after the stop-down metering. It's kinda a hack, though.

I don't mind the lack of coupling too much. It does complicate operation a bit, but for someone like me that likes to tweak stuff, it means the older lenses will stay cheaper.

I am curious how much additional expense it would be to add coupled-metering to a body. For the expensive models, it might be an acceptable expense.

-Cory

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Anthony Farr wrote:

Cory,

At the bottom of that web page is the following:

"NOTE: This modification will not permit shutter-preferred or programmed
autoexposure and will not allow K and M lenses to be used on the new *ist
and *ist-D cameras (or the ZX-30/MZ-30, ZX-50/MX-50 or ZX-60/MZ-60)."

Since that web page was created Pentax released a firmware upgrade to allow
the *istD to do stopdown metering with the green button, and the *istDs was
released with that ability (via a different button).  But when the istD was
released it could only meter with pre-A lenses at wide open aperture.

You're correct in thinking that it's a gear limitation preventing the
conversion from working, but it's not in the firmware - it's in the
hardware.  The cameras named don't have a mechanical relay for the aperture
setting, they depend upon electrical data relay only.  The mechanical relay
is a legacy of the original K-mount of c.1975.  The A lenses introduced the
electrical contacts between camera and lens, but for the sake of
compatibility the two systems co-existed in cameras and lenses for some
years until Pentax finally began to drop mechanical linkage on cheaper
models.

But when the *istD appeared without mechanical linkage there was a great
wailing and gnashing of teeth, because this was not a budget camera to be
dismissed as a newbies' camera.  Pentax had sent a message that it would not
maintain full backwards and forwards compatibility forever.

regards,
Anthony Farr

-----Original Message-----
From: Cory Papenfuss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

        Hey all... I've been playing with some older lenses I've got with
my *ist-DS, and I figured I'd try my hand at modifying a lens to have the
electrical contacts.  Basically, the same modification as outlined here:

        http://www.robertstech.com/matrix.htm

        After successful completion of drilling jigged divots, I still
cannot get anything other than center-weighed metering.  Upon further
examination, it appears that even on an official KA lens with insulators,
if the aperture ring is set to other than 'A', center-weighed metering is
used.  Looking through the manual, it says that multi-segment metering
requires a 'A' lens or greater, but doesn't actually say it must be *set*
to 'A'.  Is this a limitation in the firmware on this model?  Apparently
on some bodies (like Mark's) it should be possible once the contacts are
set to inform the camera what aperture ranges it can do.

-Cory





*************************************************************************
* Cory Papenfuss                                                        *
* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student               *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University                   *
*************************************************************************



Reply via email to