I'd be interested to know how well these RAWs would compress with
either RAR, ACE or 7zip format (best settings of course).



On Apr 12, 2005 12:41 PM, Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > With the 10D, writing RAW format with the camera set to its defaults, I
> > obtain 127 RAW files per a 1G CF card. If I modify the defaults with a 
> > custom
> > function and minimize the embedded JPEG file, I can get 143 RAW exposures 
> > per
> > 1G card.
> >
>        I've corresponded with someone at Pentax and told them they should
> enable/disable the RAW+JPEG function.  Basically, either remove the
> full-sized JPEG embedded in the -DS RAW, or make it high enough quality to
> be useful.  As it is, it's roughly 1MB... low enough quality to be fairly
> useless, but large enough to waste 15% of the space of the file.
> 
> > With the *ist DS, I get 100-105 RAW format exposures on a 1G SD card.
> >
>        The *only* variable in how large the -DS RAW files are is how well
> the three embedded JPEGs compress.  The RAW data itself is uncompressed
> (although packed), 12-bit Bayer data.
> 
> > So the Canon will store 27-43% more RAW exposures per 1G card. While this is
> > a useful improvement in space efficiency, I don't really consider that
> > significant. Yeah, sure, I need 3 1G SD cards for the DS compared to 2 1G CF
> > cards for the 10D, but they're cheap enough as to not be that much of a
> > burden nowadays. I don't often need more than one 1G card anyway, unless I'm
> > traveling.
> >
>        Aside from a bit of computational issues, there's no reason not to
> compress the RAW data.  There could even be a "compress all now" you could
> use to "pack" the files on the flash card and make more room if it was too
> slow to do on the fly.  Unlikely, though, given how slow flash memory is.
> It'd probably be faster to compress on the fly and spool to the card than
> to just spool the uncompressed onto the card.  I think Pentax was just a
> bit behind on the design schedule and had to let something slip... sorta
> like USB-2.0 lacking on the -D.
> 
>        Just for a datapoint, I took 25 -DS RAW files and compressed them
> losslessly with a couple of different methods:
> 
> 249355733 bytes uncompressed            (Full size, 9.5MB avg)
> 209182171 bytes compressed with 'gzip'  (84% original size, 8.0MB avg)
> 209185296 bytes compressed with 'zip'   (84% original size, 8.0MB avg)
> 158154181 bytes compressed with 'bzip2' (63% original size, 6.0MB avg)
> 
>        A few of those pictures probably compress a bit better than
> most, since they were pictures taken out of my airplane (lots of sky,
> clouds, haze).  Even with that, they could certainly be compressed to
> roughly 1MB/Mpixel, but it would take firmware work, and winders/mac
> software work.
> 
> -Cory
> 
> *************************************************************************
> * Cory Papenfuss                                                        *
> * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student               *
> * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University                   *
> *************************************************************************
> 
> 


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