On 14 Apr 2005 at 21:10, Mark Cassino wrote:

> I can't get the original page to load, so thanks to Fred for posting the 
> extracted page.
> 
> I'm rather surprised by how poorly the FA 1.7 does at wider apertures. 
> Similarly surprised that the Ricoh 50mm f2.0 did so poorly.
> 
> I'm trying to put these numbers into perspective with the *ist-D....
> 
> Let's see -  23.5mm x a5.7 mm sensor with 3008 x 2008 pixels works out to 
> about 128 pixels per mm. With LPM being a factor of on half pixels per mm 
> (it takes one pixel for the line, one for the background) then the 
> theoretical maximum resolution of the *ist-D / DS is only 64 lpm.... ????
> 
> Is my math wrong on that, or are most of these lenses equal on the *ist-D / 
> DS?
> And for that matter, more or less equal with most films except the highest
> performing slide films (I seem to recall that Velvia could resolve something
> like 160 lpm?  Or maybe that was DPI... My memory is about as good as my 
> math.)

Testing the resolution *ist D using USAF chart I found that the camera/best 
lens combos can manage no more than about 46lppm absolute resolution. 

>From the archives:

Subject: RE: *ist D resolution (was:Soon to be new istD owners)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:24:46 +1000

On 12 Jan 2004 at 22:28, Jens Bladt wrote:

> Hi Rob
> Hmmm. Not so sure about how to test lens resolution on film.
> I'm sure 100 linepairs pr. mm has been occationally achieved on film.

Hi Jens,

Plenty of resources here: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/lenstesting/

> Simple math tels me that 3000 pixel covering 24mm gives 125 pixel/mm. But you
> need three to make a PAIR of lines. Gives you appr. 43 line pairs/mm, right.
> So, using a 6MP body is like using the poorest lens ever made by Pentax -
> resoluton wise, of cource.

Sure, the Kell factor in this case appears to be about 0.7 therefore the 
resolution in lpmm can effectively be calculated as 
3008pixels/23.5mm/2pixels*0.7kell factor=44.8lpmm. I used a conventional test
chart in conjunction with a very high resolution lens in order to reduce it's
effect on the measurement and I calculated an optical resolution of 44.6lpmm 
and
this was before I made any theoretical calculations.

> Like 100 lp/mm seemed to be "the sound wall" of analog photography, it seems
> appr. 5000 dpi is "the sound wall" of current digital photography. But I'm
> sure they'll break throug this sometime soon. SONY is now marketing a 8MP
> consumer camera - with a 2.0 Carl Zeiss lens - for appr. 1000$ (Sony DSC
> F-828). Maybe we'll get there earlier than we relly want.

I don't think so, I doubt there will be that much to gain by making smaller
pixels, look at the noise generated by the Pentax *istD at higher ISO already.
Smaller pixels will reduce the effective exposure latitude, colour accuracy and
increase the noise floor.




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