The DA is F4, I've since tried this same thing with the Tamron
28-75/2.8 and the Tamron SP 90/2.8 Macro.
The 90 gave 100% predictable results, the 28-75 was about 80%.
The 50s are what baffle me, I use manual focus lenses on the D
all the time.
Of course I miss every so often but I've found the Ds viewfinder
far better than many manual focus bodies.
I went out today and got a couple of 4ft "yardsticks", I'll
try again tomorrow and see if I can find a pattern of any sort.
The light we had today was such that I could easily see the DOF
of the grass in the viewfinder, the results didn't match what I
saw at all with the 50s. Focus was always way 'behind' what I
thought it would be.
Even on a tripod, with VERY careful focusing, the image was a
surprise.
And yet at a distance of 3ft or so all the lenses gave exactly
the result I saw thru the viefinder when I did the ruler shots.
In another test I shot a tape measure focusing on 7in with the
50/1.4. I repeated this several times. Here is the result:

http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/7inches.jpg

Perfect every time.
Yet at 20-30 feet or so the results vary widely.
I'm still baffled.

Don


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: ist-D Focus Woes, More Info.
>
>
> Hi Don -
>
> I just tried out my FA50 f1.7 and *ist-D, and they worked fine
> together - I
> ran a series of shots up along a 1 hour lab envelope (a nice
> hi-res target
> with the grid for reprints on it) and the lens/camera snapped into focus
> each shot, differentiating a matter of inches each time.  They all looked
> sharp in the finder - but that finder is pretty small.
>
> If the camera focuses correctly with some lenses and not others,
> I'd suspect
> a problem with the lens. In my experience, the *ist-D autofocus with slow
> lenses (like f5.6) is not so good, but it is very good with
> faster lenses.
> Your experience seems to be different - though, what is the
> aperture of the
> DA 16-45?  Maybe you are just seeing the results of more DOF than
> you get at
> f 1.7 and f 4 with the FA 1.7 ???
>
> - MCC
>
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Mark Cassino Photography
> Kalamazoo, MI
> www.markcassino.com
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PDML" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 4:16 PM
> Subject: ist-D Focus Woes, More Info.
>
>
> > I'm not sure if I need a camera repairman or a psychologist
> > but here goes.
> > I tried A50/1.4, the FA50/1.7 and the DA 16-45 on a
> > yardstick from about 3 feet away.
> > Manual or autofocus were all spot on in 24 shots.
> >
> >
> > I took the 2 AF lenses outside and took shots of the
> > flowers, weeds, leaves etc. I found  in the grass.
> > The reason I chose these is that the grass shows clearly
> > whether focus was right on, long, or short.
> > It's a bright but overcast day so light is very even,
> > speeds were between 1/125th and 1/500th.
> > Shots at maximum aperture, AND the FA50/1.7 at 4.0.
> > I kept the intended subject centered in the viewfinder
> > to make it obvious what I was aiming at.
> >
> > Here's the score:
> > FA50/1.7 at 1.7, 20 misses out of 24, almost all were
> > focused long. (Past the intended point)
> >
> > FA50/1.7 at 4.0, 14 misses out of 24, again almost all
> > were long.
> >
> > DA16-45/4.0 at 45/4.0, *2* misses out of 24, one was
> > long, one was short.
> >
> > Again, all looked sharp in the viewfinder, if it was an
> > obvious 'miss' I let the lens re-focus.
> > OK, so the DA is my hero. ;-/
> > Any theories as to the extreme inconsistency in the
> > FA50 (And A50) ???????
> >
> > And the main question:.........................
> > HOW can a viewfinder lie, but only SOMETIMES??
> >
> > Don (The Thoroughly Frustrated)
> >
> > PS: I have straight from the camera samples to prove
> > I'm not just on "Happy Weed". ;-)
> >
> >
>

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