I have no problem with people saying what they would have done differently. This is all educational stuff as far as I am concerned, whether I agree or not with a particular suggestion.
The only comment I don't appreciate is a bald "I don't like it", without saying exactly why. It may be a crap picture, but WHY? What makes it bad?
Incidentally, I agree with your observations about the picture.
John
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:42:20 +0100, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think it comes down to what you are trying to say. If you are showing the juxtaposition of the old and the new, it is perfect as it is. If you are trying for a timeless look then the vapor trail needs to go. It works for me either way, but they would be two different photos. This points up a problem with critiques here on the list. So many times what happens is people tell you what picture they would have made instead of commenting on the picture you made. I find it interesting because Shel is telling you what your picture should be saying after resisting, rightfully, others doing the same about his cable car shot. graywolf
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John Forbes wrote:Shel,
Thanks for your comments, and I agree with you to a large extent. However, I'm still grappling with the purist thing about how far one should go with excising troublesome objects from a picture.
This isn't a natural scene, and I'm not working for the tourist board. The river bank was turned into a towpath 200 years ago. The gas lamp probably belongs to the 1870s. On the right, the rich live in splendour. Despite apearances, this is in the middle of the biggest city in Europe.
The sky above is always filled with vapour trails because the river is on the flightpath into Heathrow airport.
So, I think that in this crop, the vapour stays. However, I will try a much tighter crop to focus on the wet slabs, as you suggested.
John
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:20:25 +0100, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Y'know John, there's a better pic in there somewhere. Perhaps something
more abstract or interesting with just those lovely colored stones and the
small puddle, perhaps a hint of the water. Or perhaps open the shadow a
bit on the right to enhance the atmosphere. Lose the vapor trail. Very
out of place and out of synch.
Shel
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