It's not the manual wind per. se. that stops the fogging it's the method of
counting sprocket holes.  If the P3t uses a geared sprocket wheel to position
the film for the next frame then it will not fog IR film.  I don't know the
answer to this, my knowledge of Pentax cameras skips this generation. (I never
used those 'P' cameras I was happy with my MX).  The ZX-M uses an IR sensor to
count sprocket holes for film positioning.  A metal body and a solid film door
would help with IR leaking in from the environment but might not be essential.



At 09:14 PM 6/7/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Eric  Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Subject: Re: Re: SFX & InfraRed
>
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Keith Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Re: SFX & InfraRed
>
><<<<<<This Eric in Utah and I have a silly question for the pdml. The two
>manual
>cameras that I own are the P3t and ZX-M and my question is; which camera
>would handle IR film better as to not get the blury stuff or leaking? If a
>K-1000 and the ME do just fine I would guess it's due to the solid bodys or
>am I wrong on that too?
>- -
>From: "Bill D. Casselberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: SFX & InfraRed
>
>Eric Platt wrote:
>
> > This Eric in Utah and I have a silly question for the pdml. The two manual
> > cameras that I own are the P3t and ZX-M and my question is; which camera
> > would handle IR film better as to not get the blury stuff or leaking? If a
> > K-1000 and the ME do just fine I would guess it's due to the solid bodys
>or
> > am I wrong on that too?
>
>I'd try the P3t if it was my choice. The problem in the thread
>up to this point has been fogging by IR emitting sensors in the
>camera body. I think these are associated w/ auto-winding bodies.
>The P3t, if it is like the P30t I once had, is still a manual
>wind body and I doubt that it would have these sensors. If the
>little film window bothers you, tape it over w/ aluminum foil
>covered w/ electrical tape. Do this before loading the film and
>be sure to load & unload in complete darkness. Don't let anyone
>develop the film unless they are familiar with and equipped for
>handling it entirely in complete darkness. Lots of processors
>also use IR sensors - don't let them take the film out of the
>plastic film can in the light, either!  This is for the Kodak HIE
>
>Bill
>
>         ---------------------------------------------------------
>         Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast
>
>                                 http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb
>                                 [EMAIL PROTECTED]        >>>>>>>>
>
>I agree with Bill.  I would use the manual wind body.  With SFX and Konica,
>the film window should not be a concern.  These films are not as sensitive
>to IR wavelengths as Kodak HIE.  I use a professional processor that uses
>dip-and-dunk processing and have never had a fogging problem.  The data back
>on the ZX-5 has not been the source for any fogging.  The main reason I use
>the K1000 rather than my ZX-5 is that I prefer the all-manual controls and I
>prefer to use a hand-held meter.
>
>Keith Zimmerman
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://homepage.dave-world.net/~vkzimm/gallery5.html
>
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