I agree that if an emulsion is manufactured, it will be sold in whatever sizes people want (within reason). I doubt that in future the MF/LF market will be sufficient on its own to make film production worthwhile. However, if there is still an economically viable market for 35mm film, then MF/LF users will be provided for.

I do believe that colour film will disappear completely. It make take five or ten years, but I just can't see how it can be viable in the long term. As Herb pointed out, who wants to invest in a declining market? Those who did the buy-outs at Agfa and Ilford were business managers who knew nothing else. They weren't businessmen, or entrepreneurs, and they paid the price.

I don't think the LP business is a good analogy. Pressing a piece of vinyl is much easier than running a film production line, and very small production runs are quite viable.

John

On Sat, 28 May 2005 19:20:16 +0100, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Film is made in something like 40 inch wide rolls, then slit down to various sizes. That being the case it is likely that other sizes of film will remain available. In fact it is somewhat easier to get odd-ball sizes of film today than it was 10 years ago. Now different emulsions will disappear as it will become uneconomical to produce emulsion that they can not sell a run of before it is out of date, but the popular stuff will still be available in most sizes. A point of interest was Kodaks anouncement that their sheet film would no longer be available in 25 and 100 sheet packs, but only 50 sheet packs. That was an attempt to reduce the number of packages Kodak and dealers whould have to stock.

At the time I felt that killing the 25 sheet package, especially of Tri-X, was suicidal because one the biggest customers was college students. Apparently I was right about that because I notice the 25 sheet package of Tri-X is once again available.

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John Forbes wrote:
I would guess that 35mm b&w will outlive anything else. The darkroom process is something that many photographers don't want to give up, and there may be enough of them to keep b&w film alive almost indefinitely. It is unlikely to be cost-effective to make colour film just for MF and LF cameras, and those formats, if they survive, will do so by hanging onto the coat-tails of the b&w 35mm chaps.
 John
   On Sat, 28 May 2005 13:04:54 +0100, DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

As long as analog MF and LF is and will be a lot cheaper than its digital counterparts someone will make film. My guess is that Ilford has a good position in that market.

DagT

P� 28. mai. 2005 kl. 04.21 skrev Herb Chong:

sad, but not a surprise except to those with blinders on. Ilford is next.

Herb....
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