Thanks for the feedback, Tom. J and C describes the Efke and Adox films as thin emulsion, high silver content. I would guess that they're not much like the older films, either.
On 6/1/05, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hum..? GRIN! > > So, you think they still make it exactly like they did pre-WWII? > > Not a chance. CP-400 has extended red sensitivity. CP-200 may be a thick > emulsion film (I like the 4x5) but it is not a 1939 film, nor is it Super-XX. > Classic Pan is made by Forte, as is Freestyles Arista-EDU. They and Forte Pan > 200 & 400 are all the same. The French stuff does not seem to be the same, at > lease it seems to be coated on different film stock (sheet film sizes). > > The Efke from J&C Photo (supposedly the same as Adox) may have old style > emulsions. I have not used it so could not say. If you are looking for slow > films it seems to be about the only thing generally available now. > > You can find out a lot about these and other B&W films over on the Analog > Photography Users Group <http://www.apug.org/forums/home.php> > > graywolf > http://www.graywolfphoto.com > "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" > ----------------------------------- > > > Scott Loveless wrote: > > In a nutshell, I asked the folks at J and C this question: How will > > Classic Pan 200 and 400 compare to the spectral response of older > > films like Super XX or early Tri-X? > > > > Their response, verbatim: Similar, the base technology of these films > > is from an old Kodak factory in Eastern Europe. > > > > There you have it, folks. I guess we'll see. > > > > > > On 5/31/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>I'd certainly be interested in knowing how that works for you. Do you know > >>if J&C brand film mimicks the color response of older film? It's been > >>suggested elsewhere that a very light blue filter can be used to emulate > >>the spectral response of older stocks. What developer were you thinking of > >>using? > >> > >>Shel > >> > >> > >> > >>>[Original Message] > >>>From: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: <[email protected]> > >>>Date: 5/30/2005 9:42:30 PM > >>>Subject: Re: Getting That Old Fashioned Glow > >>> > >>>Shel, > >>> > >>>The propaganda at J and C suggests that their Classic Pan 200 is > >>>similar to the old Super XX. I emailed them yesterday asking about > >>>film that might be similar to the older, grainier Tri-X. They replied > >>>today suggesting the Classic Pan 400. So I ordered five rolls of > >>>each. I suppose it could just be a marketing ploy on their part, but > >>>I'm hopeful. I'll let you, and everyone else, know how they work out > >>>as soon as I can. > >>> > >>>On 5/29/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>>>Hi, > >>>> > >>>>I've never tried the J&C labeled films, but have used Formapan and > >> > >>Bergger > >> > >>>>(which I understand are similar). I only use water stop when I've run > >> > >>out > >> > >>>>of regular acidic stop bath - which is, essentially, never <LOL> Never > >> > >>had > >> > >>>>a problem with acidic stop bath, however, I use it diluted a little more > >>>>than called for and as a one-shot. I forget the proportions now (5 or > >> > >>10 > >> > >>>>cc to 15oz water, perhaps), and I use a graduated hypodermic syringe to > >> > >>add > >> > >>>>the stop to the water. > >>>> > >>>>Shel > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>[Original Message] > >>>>>From: Scott Loveless > >>>> > >>>>>J and C claims their JandC Classic Pan 200 and 400 films are thick > >>>>>emulsions and high silver content. I've never tried these, but have > >>>>>been thinking about buying a few rolls to test. > >>>>> > >>>>>Going off on a tangent, have you ever had any problems using an acidic > >>>>>stop bath on thick emulsion films? Do you think a water stop would be > >>>>>a better option? > >>>>> > >>>>>On 5/29/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>>Hi Scott, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Plus-X is a modern film, relatively speaking. I use older-style > >>>> > >>>>emulsions > >>>> > >>>>>>most of the time with my B&W work, but they have all been > >> > >>modernized. > >> > >>>>Have > >>>> > >>>>>>used some of what J&C sells - Efke, and others. Still not getting > >> > >>what > >> > >>>>I > >>>> > >>>>>>want, but will keep experimenting and trying. Thanks. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Shel > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>[Original Message] > >>>>>>>From: Scott Loveless > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Is it necessary to use a modern film? Plus-X, or perhaps > >> > >>something > >> > >>>>>>>from JandCphoto.com, might give you that glow. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>Scott Loveless > >>>>>http://www.twosixteen.com > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>Scott Loveless > >>>http://www.twosixteen.com > >>> > >>>-- > >>>"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.3 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 > > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
