Hi Mark ...

I'm not sure if I have another copy of "The Negative" here.  I sold a copy
to Boris last year.  Anyway, the area is filled with book stores, so it'll
be easy enough to check his comments.

When you use high dilutions of Rodinal, or the water bath system with APX
100, do you compensate at all with your exposure?  Generally I've given
anywhere between 2/3 and a stop of additional exposure when using Rodinal
1:100, which is what Agfa suggested, but that was with APX 25.

As for R09, I figure I'll wait a little with that, and use some of the
regular, contemporary Rodinal first, as it's already in stock at Casa
Belinkoff, and that way I'd have a point of comparison.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Mark Cassino 

> You might want to check out pages 226 and 229 in Adam's _The Negative_. 
He 
> discusses using very dilute HC110 (1:119) with very minimal agitation (15 
> seconds every 3 minutes.)  I did a lot of my development with Classic Pan 
> using a similar approach and liked the results.
>
> Earlier today I tried the "water-bath" process that Adams describes,
using 
> APX 100.  He cautions that it is not as effective with thin emulsion
films, 
> and I can't say that the result I got was much different than just a high 
> dilution / low agitation approach to developing, but the negs came out
with 
> excellent shadow detail in a very high contrast scene - so it did seem to 
> work.
>
> I've found HC110, diluted 1:100, works great with APX - 14 minutes @ 20C.
I 
> stumbled into that somewhere on the internet - it's the only time I've
seen 
> HC 110 used at 1:100, but it works well with gentle, one per minute 
> agitation.
>
> I'd be interested to hear your impressions of R09 if you give it a try.
>
> Good luck!
>
> - MCC
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Getting That Old Fashioned Glow - Coming Along
>
>
> > Yep, Rodinal's been around a l-o-n-g time, and it seems that the formula
> > has changed over the past hundred years or so.  There are several 
> > different
> > Rodinal formulas floating around and I think I'm going to try R09 in
> > addition to the current stuff that's now in the darkroom.  The
technique 
> > of
> > high dilution and long development times is especially appealing.  For
the
> > most part I've used it @ 1:100 with five seconds of very gentle
agitation
> > once per minute.  I'd like to try about half that agitation cycle at
some
> > point.


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