Both lenses are old design with built-in hood and switch
manual/automatic aperture (which provides a free DOF preview when not
in your camera ;o).

* 85-210mm f/4.5 macro (1:3) takes 55mm filters.

* 135mm f/2.8 takes 55mm filters.

I can send pictures if it helps identification.

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Thibouille
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*ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX and KR-10x ...

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