Both lenses are old design with built-in hood and switch manual/automatic aperture (which provides a free DOF preview when not in your camera ;o).
* 85-210mm f/4.5 macro (1:3) takes 55mm filters. * 135mm f/2.8 takes 55mm filters. I can send pictures if it helps identification. ---------------------- Thibouille ---------------------- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX and KR-10x ...

