On 10/7/05, Markus Maurer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>But why is that not allowed in general?

To put it simply, venue management bow to most artist's management and
ban photography and recording so that the artist retains control of their
material.

If I was a musician, and performed a concert at a theatre seating a
couple of thousand, and later found that CDs were being sold (Cotty, Live
and In Concert!) without my authorisation, then doubtless my manager
would be looking for someone to sue. If the venue management prohibit
recording equipment, then there should be no recording of my concert
taking place.

With photographs, it's a little different, but essentially the same
principle is repeated. As a musical artist, my manager would want full
control of my image, and how that is portrayed. True, gifted amateur
photographers are not going to damage my reputation in any way i can
think of, but by the same token, my manager will not be able to tell the
gifted amateur photographer apart from a paparazzi looking to make some sales.

With any performance art, it is all about who you know. Clearly you need
to make better contacts with the venues - the venue manager you spoke to
did not seem very endearing. Is it not possible to approach him before an
actual performance, in a less stressful situation - possibly taking along
a portfolio to show him, putting him at ease with you, showing him that
you are a nice, likeable photo enthusiast and not a nutter pap hungry for
glitz and money?

>I think if you photograph without a flash and only with a silent manual
>camera it should be possible.

As many people do. People take in small point and shoot cameras to music
venues all the time. That's easier to do though, and managers are less
inclined to worry about results using such gear. When they see you and a
300 f/2.8, you may find that they become a little more interested in your
motives.

In the end, that's what it's all about - motives. Why are you shooting
what you shoot? is it to make some money, or is it because you enjoy the
activity? You and I know the answer to that - now you have to convince
the people who are able to decide if you will or you won't be able to do it.

>Of course I depend on your sympathy for a "poor" amateur like me Cotty, it's
>all about suffering for the creation of Pentax art (vbg) ;-)

In general, most people warm to humility. Even when i have every right to
be in a certain place at a certain time, filming whatever or whoever is
the subject, I always just check in with whoever's in control - have a
little chat, gain a little confidence, make a little friendship.
Sometimes it pays off huge dividends later, when there are two dozen
monkeys jumping about waving expensive gear - and I get ushered to a
better position because i took the time and trouble to make contact with
a fellow human.

I learned long ago that if you burn a bridge behind you, you can bet your
paycheck that you'll need to cross it again on the way back!

HTH


Cheers,
  Cotty


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