I think your explanation, and your English, are excellent.
Very understandable considering how complex an issue it is.
Thanks for taking the time to write it all out.

Don

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:36 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Theory of Equivalency
>
>
> There are two main reasons influencing the DOF when comparing
> "equivalent"
> focal lengths on different formats. They fight one against the other.
>
> 1) Aperture. This does not depend on the format the lenses are
> designd for.
> If you set the same f-stop (relative aperture), the absolute
> aperture (the
> hole) will be smaller in the shorter lens, thus giving more DOF. For this
> reason, a 50mm lens used on APS format should show more DOF than
> a 75mm on
> 35mm format (regardless on the format they are designed for and provided
> that both lenses are set on the same relative aperture).
>
> 2) Circle of confusion (a lens design parameter, different for different
> formats, which limits resolution). On average, this depends on the format
> the lenses are designd for. Details perceived as "in focus" and "out of
> focus" depend on the print size, the distance you look at the picture and
> your visual acuteness. So designers have to guess the average
> condition and
> use a circle of confusion complaint to this. Circle of confusion
> matches the
> smallest detail the lens is designed to resolve. When comparing
> high-quality
> lenses (allowing big blow-ups) the acceptable circle of confusion for a
> smaller format is smaller than the circle for a lens designed to cover a
> larger format because the lens for the smaller format is supposed to be
> enlarged more. For this reason, larger formats gain resolution over a
> smaller sizes, but not as much as you could expect by the difference in
> their formats. So, when you use a MF lens on 35mm, you usually
> get smaller
> DOF that when using a lens of the same focal length designed for
> 35mm. This
> can also happen when using lenses designed for 35mm on APS
> cameras (either
> film or digi).
> This does not happen when using lenses designed for that format (compact
> digicams, Olympus 4/3, Pentax DA, Nikon DX, Canon EF-S).
> For this reason, a 50mm lens used on APS format should show less
> DOF than a
> 75mm on 35mm format (provided that both lenses are designed for
> 35mm and are
> set on the same relative aperture).
>
> To make things more complicated, there's nothing forcing designers to use
> the same circle of counfusion for any lens intended for a given
> format. When
> you say that lenses for smaller formats use smaller COF, you mean on
> average. Any lens can have its own COF. Typically, macros are
> designed with
> a smaller COF (higher resolution) than portrait lenses, hence
> macros suffer
> less reduction in their DOF when used on smaller formats.
>
> Factors 1 and 2 fight one against the other. However, in practical use
> factor 1 tends to win over factor 2, hence 35mm lenses used on APS format
> have some extra DOF. But you cannot foresee how  much, any lens can be a
> different case and I think that with some lenses factor 2 could
> well balance
> factor 1, giving about the same DOF. It is also possible that in some
> instances (low-end zooms?) factor 2 prevails over factor 1,
> giving less DOF
> on the digital APS that the one on 35mm. BTW, this is what Pentax
> write in
> their DSLR manuals, advicing you to look at one stop more open on the DOF
> scale of lenses bearing it (e.g. if you set f/8, consider the DOF
> the scale
> gives for f/5.6).
>
> In case of lenses designed for the smaller format, factor 2 does
> not apply,
> hence you have more DOF for sure (this is well visible on compact
> digicams
> equipped with good lenses).
>
> Not sure if I've been able to explain well the above concepts. If not,
> please English-language folks come to the rescue.
>
> Dario

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