You're right, of course. I am angry though. And I demand retribution - what is justly deserved, recompense. And I demand it from both those who do, those who teach, those who finance and also those who give aid, comfort or safe haven to these barbarians. Dealing with such people in the manor necessary has always been distasteful and repugnant to a civilized people. Nevertheless, it must be done, lest the barbarians come to dictate to and rule harshly over the gentile people of the world. I don't want my country to do this, but I see no one else with a solution that has ever been shown to work at any time in the sorry history of this planet. I will not be harsh to judge those who stand on the wall and watch and who offer themselves up to stand in harm's way for people they don't even know.

Regards,
Bob...
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"The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose
as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers
with the smallest possible amount of hissing."
- Jean-Baptiste Colbert,
  minister of finance to French King Louis XIV

From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Bob,

What you write is reasonable and agreeable, but the reasoning can lead to three
types of action.

Yes, three.

I too am weary of Chamberlainian naivité. It leads to a type of (in)action which
should be sufficiently disproved, by history, to be efficient.

The other two implies some action to be taken to protect ourselves. I'm not
going to outline the two, but suffice it to say that they differ in the
emotions put behind the actions. If we let hatred govern our reasoning, then we
actually sink to a level only marginally different from the terrorists
themselves.

All the Londoners I spoke to yesterday, bar one, voiced an attitude that I
really liked. One of them said: "I hope the police find the bastards who did this, or what's left of them. It's no good if people of differnt faiths begin
suspecting each other here in Britain".

What the deviating opinion was, I shall not bring on to a "family" list. :-)

Jostein


Quoting Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

No one really knows for sure, but current thought is that sociopaths are
born that way. Fanatics don't bother me. We're a list of fanatics after all.

Sociopaths with an innate lust for power, brilliant and charismatic do. This

very type of fanatics has been going on for centuries. Spain has it's
history with it as do the Slavs and much of Africa. Further, it's irrelevant

how a person, group or society becomes the way they are. Even if caused by
some event or action, the idea that taking away the event or action will
solve the problem is naive. It's like a child who, when he learns he has
cavities and must get fillings because he didn't brush his teeth, thinks he can avoid the dentist by brushing twice as hard, long and often to make the
cavity go away.

Some people are simply bent on conquering, codify it and teach it to others
teach it to their children. They do what they do because they want to.
Everything else is an excuse. To say it is not so is to deny a major part of

human history Kahn, Attila, the Roman expansion, Nebekenezzer, Meads &
Persians, British colonialism, French Colonialism, Spanish colonialism,
Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc., etc.

I'm so tired of the Snivel Chamberlains of this world.

Regards,
Bob...
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"The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose
as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers
with the smallest possible amount of hissing."
 - Jean-Baptiste Colbert,
   minister of finance to French King Louis XIV

From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> From: "Tom Reese"
>
>> I don't think that's true. Fanatics of any persuasion do not believe >> in
>> minding their own business or respecting the beliefs of others.
>
> Do you believe a fanatic is born that way or do you believe that > outside
> forces make him that way?






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