Shel, comments inline...

On Jul 20, 2005, at 10:46 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Not quite.  I didn't ~need~ auto bracketing, nor did I need bracketed
shots.  I decided to try it because the project at hand was boring and
repetitive and I didn't want to waste time on something I really didn't want to do. I'd have done just as well with a manual camera, just not as
fast.  Nor did I have to go find such a camera.  It was offered to me
without my having to ask. While these may seem like small differences, to
me they are significant.

Nevertheless, it was more effort than just having to turn on the feature.


That said, having used the 5n today I found it to be a reasonably nice
camera, but very annoying in many ways. Maybe more experience will assuage some of the annoyances, but I also no some will remain as long as I use the
camera.  Nothing will change the cheesy shutter release operation, for
example.

I'm not following you here. You push the button, the shutter fires, right? How is that cheesy?

The slow autofocus, and the limited ability for autofocus to work
on certain subjects or in certain light, means that I'd rarely, if ever, use that function. The AF confirmation light does not always accurately confirm when the point on the subject that I want to focus upon is, indeed,
in focus.

I'm not reliant on the little focus confirmation light, rarely notice it. I am too busy looking at the viewfinder image. Don't notice the beep, either. I'll have to check when I get to work tomorrow if I even have that turned on.


Yes, there are workarounds to some of these things, but having to first decide if a function is appropriate for a shot, and then argue with it to some degree, is not my idea of photography. The simplicity of a manual camera - which has no functions (even a meter is a PITA at times) allows me to think only of making the photograph. There's no need to "prepare" the camera for this or that situation (just remembering to turn the camera on or off is a distraction), nothing in the viewfinder to distract me, and ultimately nothing to make taking the photograph "easier" causing me to
become reliant upon such a function, and to perhaps lose or lessen my
reflexes and the spontaneity with which I like to shoot. But that's just me ... others will say that all this new stuff can be learned and can be
beneficial ... OK, but a rejoinder is that maybe those who have become
dependent on using a plethora of features may want to try using a fully manual camera. You may find it freeing, and you can certainly learn to work
around its limitations ;-))


I don't know of anyone here using modern cameras who is "dependent" on any features. I'm certainly not. There are certainly some features that are nice to have, but I took many thousands of photos without them when I didn't have them. I could do it again if I wanted to. I've never been distracted by anything in a viewfinder, don't care what a shutter sounds like, and I pay absolutely no attention to which way a given lens turns to focus. If what I'm looking at through the viewfinder goes out of focus when I turn the lens one way, I turn it back the other way. It's simply not a big deal to me.

I have carried in my pocket one form of knife or another since I was a kid. Back then it was a "manual" knife, one or two blades. Now I have a Swiss Army with a couple of blades and 64MB of flash memory. I've used the memory a couple of times when I needed to transfer some documents from one computer to another. It was a gift, not something I really would have gone out and purchased for myself. But it's been useful when I found a use for it. Cameras are like that for me. I'm not sure I would design a camera with all the features available on those I use, but when I've come upon a use, I've been glad to have them. It's as simple as that.

You can use whatever camera you want. I've been saying that since I first joined this list, back in '96, and I'll keep saying it. I just want to see the photos you took, if you feel like sharing them. Just don't try to convince me I am somehow deficient because I use the camera I use. It's the PDML Golden Rule, as far as I'm concerned; If want me to respect your choice of gear, you must respect mine.

Now, go out and take some damn pictures.

Doug



Shel

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