This is weird.  Neither Irfan nor PS find any EXIF in the posted image on
my machine.  Oh well ... life is filled with amazing happenstance ;-))

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 7/22/2005 4:43:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Theory of Equivalency
>
> This is the information that ifran view extracts from file 18mm.jpg
> File: - D:\temp images\18mm.jpg
>
> Looks exactly like the exif you posted
>
> Make - PENTAX Corporation
> Model - PENTAX *ist DS
> Orientation - Top left
> XResolution - 72
> YResolution - 72
> ResolutionUnit - Inch
> Software - Adobe Photoshop CS Windows
> DateTime - 2005:07:21 05:23:01
> YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited
> ExifOffset - 604
> ExposureTime - 1/4 seconds
> FNumber - 0.00
> ExposureProgram - Manual control
> ISOSpeedRatings - 400
> ExifVersion - 0221
> DateTimeOriginal - 2005:07:16 13:39:16
> DateTimeDigitized - 2005:07:16 13:39:16
> ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr
> ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
> MeteringMode - Center weighted average
> Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode
> FocalLength - 0 mm
> FlashPixVersion - 0100
> ColorSpace - Uncalibrated
> ExifImageWidth - 600
> ExifImageHeight - 399
> SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor
> FileSource - Other
> SceneType - Other
> CustomRendered - Normal process
> ExposureMode - Manual
> WhiteBalance - Manual
> FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 0 mm
> SceneCaptureType - Standard
> Contrast - Normal
> Saturation - Normal
> Sharpness - Normal
> SubjectDistanceRange - Distant view
>
> the information for 28mm.jpg is this
>
> File: - D:\temp images\28mm.jpg
>
> Orientation - Top left
> XResolution - 72
> YResolution - 72
> ResolutionUnit - Inch
> Software - Adobe Photoshop CS Windows
> DateTime - 2005:07:21 05:24:01
> ExifOffset - 164
> ColorSpace - Uncalibrated
> ExifImageWidth - 600
> ExifImageHeight - 385
>
>
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> >I don't understand this.  The images that I posted had the EXIF
information
> >stripped out of them when I used the Photoshop SFW feature.  No EXIF
> >information appears when i run the posted images through PS or
Irfanview. 
> >How then, can anyone say that they read the EXIF data in the images?
> >
> >That said, looking at the original image from the istDs, there's plenty
of
> >EXIF data, or at least what I understand EXIF data to be:
> >
> >File: - D:\N thru Z\San Francisco July 16, 2005 with Patsy\JPEG's from
> >Patsy's istDs\2005July16\IMGP0376.JPG
> >
> >Make - PENTAX Corporation
> >Model - PENTAX *ist DS
> >Orientation - Top left
> >XResolution - 72
> >YResolution - 72
> >ResolutionUnit - Inch
> >Software - *ist DS     Ver 1.00
> >DateTime - 2005:07:16 13:39:16
> >YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited
> >ExifOffset - 602
> >ExposureTime - 1/4 seconds
> >FNumber - 0.00
> >ExposureProgram - Manual control
> >ISOSpeedRatings - 400
> >ExifVersion - 0221
> >DateTimeOriginal - 2005:07:16 13:39:16
> >DateTimeDigitized - 2005:07:16 13:39:16
> >ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr
> >ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
> >MeteringMode - Center weighted average
> >Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode
> >FocalLength - 0 mm
> >FlashPixVersion - 0100
> >ColorSpace - sRGB
> >ExifImageWidth - 3008
> >ExifImageHeight - 2000
> >InteroperabilityOffset - 56338
> >SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor
> >FileSource - Other
> >SceneType - Other
> >CustomRendered - Normal process
> >ExposureMode - Manual
> >WhiteBalance - Manual
> >FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 0 mm
> >SceneCaptureType - Standard
> >Contrast - Normal
> >Saturation - Normal
> >Sharpness - Normal
> >SubjectDistanceRange - Distant view
> >
> >Maker Note (Vendor): - 
> >
> >I don't think I said the WB was set to Tungsten - I was told it was set
to
> >Flash.  IAC, whatever it was, I didn't set it, so I don't really know
what
> >it was first hand.
> >
> >Shel 
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>[Original Message]
> >>From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: <[email protected]>
> >>Date: 7/22/2005 2:34:44 PM
> >>Subject: Re: Theory of Equivalency
> >>
> >>The lens used was a SMC P 18mm f3.8.  In other words a [K] lens.  There 
> >>will be no exif information since the lens doesn't communicate any 
> >>information to the camera, unless you think the *ist-Ds can read
minds...
> >>
> >>Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>On Jul 22, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>It's also interesting to note that no sharpening was done on either  
> >>>>image.
> >>>>The one from the istDs was made with standard sharpening and other  
> >>>>standard
> >>>>settings and the scanned film was just a straight scan -push the scan
> >>>>button, let 'er roll - and no sharpening of any sort was used  
> >>>>anywhere in
> >>>>the process.
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>The image from the DS was certainly not captured with standard  
> >>>settings. Otherwise, the EXIF information (easily visible in Pentax  
> >>>Browser, EXIF-O-Matic, Photoshop CS2, and iView Media Pro) would have  
> >>>had lens name, aperture, and other information, and it would not have  
> >>>had Manual exposure, CW Averaging and other non-default settings.  
> >>>You've also already stated that the white balance was set to Tungsten.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
>
>
> -- 
> When you're worried or in doubt, 
>       Run in circles, (scream and shout).


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